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Captain Corea
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 Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:58 pm Post subject: Arrested for kissing daughter |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8240989.stm
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Man held after kissing daughter
There is growing controversy in Brazil over the arrest of an Italian tourist held after kissing his eight-year-old daughter in public.
Witnesses told police the man allegedly touched the girl in an intimate way.
Under a strict new law partly designed to combat child sex abuse in South America's largest country, he faces eight to 15 years in jail if convicted.
The unnamed man has been in custody for almost a week. A new attempt to secure his release this weekend failed.
His Brazilian wife says the case is all a misunderstanding, while staff at the resort where the incident took place have been reported as saying they saw nothing unusual.
'Misunderstanding'
The Italian tourist, a 48-year-old businessman, was arrested on 2 September in the coastal city of Fortaleza, in the north-east of Brazil, where he was on holiday with his wife and daughter.
He was reported to the police by a Brazilian couple who claimed he had been touching a young girl inappropriately and had kissed her on the mouth while they were both at a swimming pool close to the beach in full view of other tourists.
It appears the couple who made the allegations did not know that the man was with his daughter.
The north-east of Brazil has for some years had a problem of paedophiles travelling to the area, often from overseas, and strongly-worded warnings about the penalties for exploiting children are posted in most hotels.
However the wife of the arrested tourist says it was all a misunderstanding by witnesses who had misinterpreted seeing a foreign white man with a young darker-skinned girl.
She told the Brazilian state news agency if there was any suggestion the claim was true she would not hesitate to take her daughter's side, and recalled that she had been present the whole time.
The woman said the allegations had the potential to destroy her family.
Under strict new legislation passed only last month the offence of molesting a child under the age of 14 can carry a penalty of between eight and 15 years in jail.
The arrested businessman - who had been due to return to Italy with his family last week - remains in custody, and it is thought another attempt to secure his release will be made on Tuesday. |
I wonder why the police just didn't say "whoops" when they found out he was her father? |
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Goku
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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So....
People can love their children anymore?
Wow, I guess that explains why my dad never hugged me. Guess he was afraid of being arrested. I can totally understand it now. |
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Joe666
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Location: Jesus it's hot down here!
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| It begs the question: Was he making out with her? fondling her privates? |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Joe666 wrote: |
| It begs the question: Was he making out with her? fondling her privates? |
No.
Sad to see America and the Anglophone world exporting its child sex abuse witchhunt and hysteria even to South America now. |
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is so delicious
Joined: 28 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| Joe666 wrote: |
| It begs the question: Was he making out with her? fondling her privates? |
No.
Sad to see America and the Anglophone world exporting its child sex abuse witchhunt and hysteria even to South America now. |
So an Italian getting arrested in Brazil is America's fault? Shocking. |
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Rteacher
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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As far as I can see, the article (which I just skimmed) doesn't disclose whether the man is the girl's natural father or her step-father - which I think makes some difference (although plenty of natural fathers have also been guilty of sexually abusing their daughters.)
The apparent fact that it was openly done in public suggests that it was probably innocent, though. |
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SOOHWA101
Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Location: Makin moves...trying to find 24pyung
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| is so delicious wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| Joe666 wrote: |
| It begs the question: Was he making out with her? fondling her privates? |
No.
Sad to see America and the Anglophone world exporting its child sex abuse witchhunt and hysteria even to South America now. |
So an Italian getting arrested in Brazil is America's fault? Shocking. |
That is shocking! Looks like someone scored an A+ in logic class. |
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ropebreezy
Joined: 27 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| SOOHWA101 wrote: |
| is so delicious wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| Joe666 wrote: |
| It begs the question: Was he making out with her? fondling her privates? |
No.
Sad to see America and the Anglophone world exporting its child sex abuse witchhunt and hysteria even to South America now. |
So an Italian getting arrested in Brazil is America's fault? Shocking. |
That is shocking! Looks like someone scored an A+ in logic class. |
There's nothing wrong with his logic.
You get an F in posting. |
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SOOHWA101
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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Konglishman
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| For some reason, this reminds me of a case of a Muslim family from Albania living in Texas. The father was arrested for doing something inappropiate with his his little daughter, but he didn't know he was doing anything wrong. It turned out that where they were from, this was a completely acceptable form of showing affection to children. Unfortunately, the children were taken away and given to a Christian family. As I didn't keep up with the story, I don't know if there was any sort of satisfactory resolution or not. |
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Julius
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| Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:17 am Post subject: |
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| Rteacher wrote: |
| As far as I can see, the article (which I just skimmed) doesn't disclose whether the man is the girl's natural father or her step-father - which I think makes some difference |
Or maybe the girl is mixed-race and so doesn't obviously appear to be his daughter.
in any case, congratulations to those who are keen-eyed enough to notice and report stuff like this. |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:21 am Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
| Rteacher wrote: |
| As far as I can see, the article (which I just skimmed) doesn't disclose whether the man is the girl's natural father or her step-father - which I think makes some difference |
Or maybe the girl is mixed-race and so doesn't obviously appear to be his daughter.
in any case, congratulations to those who are keen-eyed enough to notice and report stuff like this. |
So you support busybodies destroying this man's life and family based on a false accusation? |
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The Cosmic Hum
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| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| in any case, congratulations to those who are keen-eyed enough to notice and report stuff like this. |
...ahh....I thought he was giving props to Captain Corea for being keen enough to see this news article and reporting here.
reading that again...ouch!
Keened-eyed...apparently not very keen or keen-eyed.
Perhaps they could have approached the man first...and inquired about said relationship.
If there was a way for the man to sue those people who reported it...at least there could be some accountability for the amount of stress these keen-eyed people have caused. |
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oskinny1
Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
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| in any case, congratulations to those who are keen-eyed enough to notice and report stuff like this. |
...ahh....I thought he was giving props to Captain Corea for being keen enough to see this news article and reporting here.
reading that again...ouch!
Keened-eyed...apparently not very keen or keen-eyed.
Perhaps they could have approached the man first...and inquired about said relationship.
If there was a way for the man to sue those people who reported it...at least there could be some accountability for the amount of stress these keen-eyed people have caused. |
They perceived something and reported it, nothing wrong with that. What is wrong is the police holding him for over a week.
What if they approached a man that was kidnapping a little girl but he just told them "oh, it's my daughter", but then, why would he lie? |
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The Cosmic Hum
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| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| oskinny1 wrote: |
| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
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| in any case, congratulations to those who are keen-eyed enough to notice and report stuff like this. |
...ahh....I thought he was giving props to Captain Corea for being keen enough to see this news article and reporting here.
reading that again...ouch!
Keened-eyed...apparently not very keen or keen-eyed.
Perhaps they could have approached the man first...and inquired about said relationship.
If there was a way for the man to sue those people who reported it...at least there could be some accountability for the amount of stress these keen-eyed people have caused. |
They perceived something and reported it, nothing wrong with that. What is wrong is the police holding him for over a week.
What if they approached a man that was kidnapping a little girl but he just told them "oh, it's my daughter", but then, why would he lie? |
...yes...good point...but not sure I would fully agree that there was/is nothing wrong with it...we are not aware of what was reported...wether it was an objective well-reasoned description of actual events...or wether it was overly sensitive, subjective, pc projectionist jargon with emotional overtones and perhaps exaggerated details...however...it must have been quite a damning report to get police to make such an error...hmm...then again...there are too many options in this equation to know fully the rights and wrongs...he could very well be guilty of the charges...if not...those who are at fault for this should be held accountable.
Regardless...this is an eye-opening case that will have many a father nervous of his rights and paternal affections. |
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