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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 6:18 am Post subject: here's some meat for you to tear into |
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| here's some meat for you to tear into and food for thought. i'm at this new job and the visa processing is being done. the letter-to-take-to-japan is picked up by wonjonim and visa period is stated as ten months, not 12 even though it is an E-2 visa. i say whaddahay? in fractured english wonjonim explains that (the jist of it) amongst the papers in application it's the guarrantor application/paperwork that puts the figure at ten months, though he is assured by immigration that the visa can easily be extended another two months up to the full twelve. as you discerning korea vets well know airfare remimbursement and severance comes upon the holy twelfth month, the holy grail (excuse my irreverence, it's directed at the institution of immigration and the 'scales of justice') read 'carrot for the donkey foreigner', haha, eeeee-onghhhh! 'guarrantor'?: same wonjonim who can 'easily' extend the visa two months. as i recall the last job i had in korea had this 'ten-month-but-can-easily-be-extended' shenanigans in the visa processing which implies to my steel-trap powers of observation that......say no more a picture is worth a thousand words; picture me floggered! in a dual state of confoundedness and inner conflagration, but hardly surprised by jove. would it taste good tuh yuh to tear into this transparent evidence of director-immigration cameraderie, aye! (message in a bottle from 'shark infested') |
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Captain Obvious 2.0

Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 6:45 am Post subject: Re: here's some meat for you to tear into |
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| here's some meat for you to tear into and food for thought. i'm at this new job and the visa processing is being done. the letter-to-take-to-japan is picked up by wonjonim and visa period is stated as ten months, not 12 even though it is an E-2 visa. i say whaddahay? in fractured english wonjonim explains that (the jist of it) amongst the papers in application it's the guarrantor application/paperwork that puts the figure at ten months, though he is assured by immigration that the visa can easily be extended another two months up to the full twelve. as you discerning korea vets well know airfare remimbursement and severance comes upon the holy twelfth month, the holy grail (excuse my irreverence, it's directed at the institution of immigration and the 'scales of justice') read 'carrot for the donkey foreigner', haha, eeeee-onghhhh! 'guarrantor'?: same wonjonim who can 'easily' extend the visa two months. as i recall the last job i had in korea had this 'ten-month-but-can-easily-be-extended' shenanigans in the visa processing which implies to my steel-trap powers of observation that......say no more a picture is worth a thousand words; picture me floggered! in a dual state of confoundedness and inner conflagration, but hardly surprised by jove. would it taste good tuh yuh to tear into this transparent evidence of director-immigration cameraderie, aye! (message in a bottle from 'shark infested') |
What?
English! Sentences! Paragraphs! Grammar! Please! |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| aye, cap'n. yo, cap'n, ever seen the likes of that ten month entry on the take-to-japan paper, with mention of the guarrantor factor limiting the period to two months short of a year? the guarrantor being the wonjonim, who also decides the likes of the visa's 'extension' up to 12. yer a tyrant with yer red marker there scholar, hats off to yuh! the likes uh you is educatin', by jimmney! hats off to the cap'n by god! |
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Crazy Oz
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Ilsan, Korea
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 7:50 am Post subject: |
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Give 'em notice me matey! The 'ol heave ho so to speak. Get yer letter of release and find a new bows'n to sail the seven seas with.
Seriously, did you know it was going to be a 10 monther when you went to the good people, or were you under the impression that it would be a year contract?
Contracts are not a great hassle to renew, but damn, it looks like you been riveted without the lube.
I do believe you can actually redo your contract with your current employer any present it to the local branch of the happy smiling faces.
Time for a down to earth chat with the 'boss' me thinks.
Good luck with it.
Still crazy, still here (and renewing). |
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hellofaniceguy

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: On your computer screen!
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| A ten month contract and the school does not have to pay severance. I have never heard of immigartion issuing a 10 month E2 visa. The visa starts from the date that is stamped in your passport, not the contract and it should state one year once the korean embassy folks issue it. |
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stalinsdad
Joined: 25 Jan 2003 Location: Jeonju
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain, keep up the act me old salt. Beware of starboard flippers and don't mess yee up the poop deck, good sailing me old barnacle. |
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Corky

Joined: 06 Jan 2004
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 3:21 am Post subject: |
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| I saw this from last year and I was just wondering what happened in the end (or what is happening)? |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 4:33 am Post subject: |
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| Well I actually had a good time at that school but from the start there was this deception re; the 12 month visa. The director said immigration was to blame for the ten month visa, but I don't believe him. So I worked with that for awhile until it got close to the end and with there no promise of severence, why stick around? There's a reason for severence; it's an incentive. So basically the boss went too far and hosed himself. If I can't trust him, if he isn't willing to be fair and above board then why be loyal and do the overhaul that school needed and I could do, doing my best? I explained all this to him in a long letter which he said was garbage because it only involved my 'opinions' and was so 'one sided', haha. Anything he said I didn't believe, about anything. So I left early with a letter of reference, good recommendation, and stayed in Thailand for two months until the visa period was finished on the job. And have since got another job in Korea, in Ulsan. Those wonjonims are out for all they can get, the scamps. Including this new boss. So 'welcome to Korea and the hagwon business'. Still, that boss was a nice guy and I like him. He gave me a glowing reference and so on. Every hogwon job becomes like a family with its bad and good days. Knock down swing around days sometimes. |
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Gollum
Joined: 04 Sep 2003 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 4:58 am Post subject: |
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I just finished a 6 month visa on a 1 year contract. After 6 months, before my renewal so I can finish the contract, guess what....
The school says they're changing my schedule and wants me to work 3 more hours and work during lunch (feeding kids). I said that's not per my contract we signed, and they said they wouldnt' renew me unless I resigned a new contract (I'm thinking they'd weasel out of the severance due to it being a new contract too, later, anyway).
So the director says fine, you can find another job. A few days later... BOOM! I've found one, and he's suddenly not very happy. I think he thought I'd cave. He was wrong. He did sign a release though.
Me wonders if immigrations was the reason for the 6 month visa, or if this is some new ploy schools are using to get out of the severance pay??? |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 5:04 am Post subject: |
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| I think if the school asks immigration for a ten month (or six month) visa then the school gets what they ask for. The old boss said that immigration said that a two month extension is possible, so there's 'no problem!'. Problem. The director asked for a ten month visa to get out of paying severence. So he obviously won't be asking for an extension on a teacher's behalf to make things peachy keen, haha. Underneath all the pandering and assurances they're sluggers. |
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Toby

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Wedded Bliss
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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10 month visa = 10 month agreement on the contract.
Airfare, in contract, after 10 months.
Severance, in contract, after 10 months.
Talk about renewing, in contract, after 10 months. |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the note of clarity but have you been listening? Signed on for one year contracts and issued ten month and six month visas. In my case it was in Fukuoka. Signed on for a 12 month contract with a 12 month visa. In Fukuoka issued poop! |
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osangrl
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Location: osan
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| i only got 10 months too...whats up WiTH THAT? |
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FUBAR
Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: The Y.C.
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| captain kirk wrote: |
| I think if the school asks immigration for a ten month (or six month) visa then the school gets what they ask for. The old boss said that immigration said that a two month extension is possible, so there's 'no problem!'. Problem. The director asked for a ten month visa to get out of paying severence. So he obviously won't be asking for an extension on a teacher's behalf to make things peachy keen, haha. Underneath all the pandering and assurances they're sluggers. |
He coud also say that you will get the 2 month extension if you agree to sign on for another year. Either way, it seems like he has you by the sak if you keep working there on a 10 month visa. |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:44 am Post subject: |
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| Out and gone; it's in the past. |
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