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kimchee01



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:24 am    Post subject: deleted Reply with quote

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madoka



Joined: 27 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:22 am    Post subject: Re: Do I disclose my health condition if I want to teach in Reply with quote

kimchee01 wrote:
In particular, I saw for the EPIK paperwork, I am asked if I have ever had hepatitis.

I am afraid if I tell recruiters I have the virus, they will most certainly refuse to work with me to find a teaching job. If I am honest and upfront w/ public schools, and disclose my condition, my application would likely get rejected.


Korea has certain rules/laws in place for teachers. If you cannot abide by these rules/laws, then I'm sorry, but you don't qualify. End of story. Time to find some other occupation with less strict requirements.
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romano812



Joined: 09 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:45 pm    Post subject: always be truthful Reply with quote

If you are really interested apply to public schools and hagwons and see what happens, just be honest. I've met people (foreigners) in Korea with criminal records and health conditions and they were still given a pass. I worked at a hagwon and over half of the staff failed the medical and nobody lost their job.
Due to the culture and sharing of food it is estimated that over 10% of the Korean population has some form of Hepatitis, and many foreigners probably pick it up while they are in Korea.
IMO give it a shot, nothing to lose but time.
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Gibberish



Joined: 29 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I remember correctly, when you go to Korea you sometimes have to get a blood test done, but I'm not sure if that only depends on if you're working for public schools. Either way, find out if they're going to blood test you. If they do, tell them, if not, then don't bother.
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storysinger81



Joined: 25 Mar 2007
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hepatitis B is endemic in most of Asia and Korea is no exception. Actually, I think it's closer to 20% of the adult population that have it or have had it--most of it running in families. This is an interesting article about the history of the disease in Korea, although it's a study on Korean-Americans: http://hepmon.com/view/?id=304

I had a (Korean male) friend hospitalized for jaundice related to his HepB and the doctors didn't even tell him that it was also a STI (I remember having to lecture him about contacting recent partners to go get tested). I think it's viewed differently here from a cultural standpoint.

I wouldn't mention it when applying for jobs and when it turns up on your mandatory lab work, just explain to your doc that you've had it from birth, and I think you'll probably be ok. You always run a risk of losing your job because you technically "lied" on your application, but honestly I don't think telling the entire truth about your medical history in a way that violates basic medical privacy laws is necessary in Korea (I'm someone who NEVER lied on official forms before coming here). Really, they'll be understanding after they've met you, but biased and just toss your application if there is a mention of the disease in there.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't lie.

You will have to take a medical test within 90 days of entry. The Ks aren't stupid... you will show 'positive' for Hep. B .... whereupon the police will come and arrest you.

After a couple (or more) of days in a regular, police lock-up, you will be transported to the closest Immi detention centre and held until you can pay/raise the funds for everything you owe (including the cost of deportation).

You have nothing to gain by lying (and everything to lose).

That being said... and this being 'Dave's', some idiot will now post about how they have Hep. B and the Ks don't know...
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The Rooz



Joined: 31 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I have read on the immigration website, they don't test for Hep B, only for drug use, TB and HIV.

They might notice some indicators in your blood test that point to possible Hep B infection, and perhaps they might mention that to you, but the test for Hep B is a specific test and they would need to specifically test for that.

You should also contact immigration and ask what 'communicable diseases' they are concerned with vis-a-vis the self-health check.

Hope that helps.
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byrddogs



Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Rooz wrote:
From what I have read on the immigration website, they don't test for Hep B, only for drug use, TB and HIV.

They might notice some indicators in your blood test that point to possible Hep B infection, and perhaps they might mention that to you, but the test for Hep B is a specific test and they would need to specifically test for that.

You should also contact immigration and ask what 'communicable diseases' they are concerned with vis-a-vis the self-health check.

Hope that helps.
I don't know about Hepatitis B specifically, but they most certainly do test for Hep in general.
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The Rooz



Joined: 31 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

byrddogs wrote:
The Rooz wrote:
From what I have read on the immigration website, they don't test for Hep B, only for drug use, TB and HIV.

They might notice some indicators in your blood test that point to possible Hep B infection, and perhaps they might mention that to you, but the test for Hep B is a specific test and they would need to specifically test for that.

You should also contact immigration and ask what 'communicable diseases' they are concerned with vis-a-vis the self-health check.

Hope that helps.
I don't know about Hepatitis B specifically, but they most certainly do test for Hep in general.


Hmm, fair enough.

I guess the next question then is whether having Hep a,b, or c would be grounds for revoking/refusing a visa.

Found this BTW:

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/09/117_51232.html

Hope it all works out for you, keep us posted with what you find out.
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kimchee01



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Rooz wrote:
byrddogs wrote:
The Rooz wrote:
From what I have read on the immigration website, they don't test for Hep B, only for drug use, TB and HIV.

They might notice some indicators in your blood test that point to possible Hep B infection, and perhaps they might mention that to you, but the test for Hep B is a specific test and they would need to specifically test for that.

You should also contact immigration and ask what 'communicable diseases' they are concerned with vis-a-vis the self-health check.

Hope that helps.
I don't know about Hepatitis B specifically, but they most certainly do test for Hep in general.


Hmm, fair enough.

I guess the next question then is whether having Hep a,b, or c would be grounds for revoking/refusing a visa.

Found this BTW:

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/09/117_51232.html

Hope it all works out for you, keep us posted with what you find out.


Hi Rooz,

Thanks for your posts, and for including the article link - interesting stuff. Makes me wonder if screening for hep will be discontinued at some point in the future...in the meantime:

From the research I've done on my own, all signs point to the Korean medical exam testing for hep (I assume all 3 strains). I think my best bet is to contact the Korean consulate and ask if having hep will prevent me from getting a visa, period. If it is, then I know that my dream of teaching in SK is no longer a possibility. At this juncture, I've determined that hiding the condition w/ recruiters and on my applications will only be "worth it" if the Korean gov't is forgiving of me being a chronic carrier of the virus after the lab work comes back.

Right now, I suspect that I may not be eligible to teach in SK, or any Asian country I've looked into, for that matter (It seems China and Taiwan have similar restrictions). The fact these countries screen for these types of conditions leads me to believe that they will not allow someone like me teaching at their schools. Ultimately, it is looking more and more like I won't be able to teach in SK (or anywhere in Asia) at all. Sad
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worst possible course of action: lie about your medical condition.

It may come back and bite you hard and result in employment termination.

Be up front and see what happens. If Hep B is considered a non-starter for a Teaching visa then you can move on and look somewhere else.

Glad you saw the right path there. You are applying to Teach this means contact with students, possibly children so health is a serious issue.

Best of luck and perhaps something other than teaching in asia would be a better bet considering your health status.
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kerbythepurplecow



Joined: 02 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have met another teacher who said he had Hep B. I'm not sure if he was super upfront about it or not. He seemed to imply that he let them know, but having just met the guy, I didn't want to pry.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kerbythepurplecow wrote:
I have met another teacher who said he had Hep B. I'm not sure if he was super upfront about it or not. He seemed to imply that he let them know, but having just met the guy, I didn't want to pry.



If you'd just met and he mentioned that he had Hep B...I'm not sure there would be too many questions he'd consider "prying".
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kimchee01



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kerbythepurplecow wrote:
I have met another teacher who said he had Hep B. I'm not sure if he was super upfront about it or not. He seemed to imply that he let them know, but having just met the guy, I didn't want to pry.


Kerby~

Thanks for the post. That is rather interesting that you met a teacher w/ hep b. I'm really curious now as to how he dealt with this matter when it came time to apply to teaching positions. Does he work in the private or public school system, out of curiosity? In any case, if you ever get around to finding out what his approach was, I would love to hear about it.
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The Rooz



Joined: 31 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So have you been able to contact the consulate?

Any news?

Hep B can often be carried for years and years without a carrier ever knowing it.. are you on any medication? Can it be treated? If you really want to go to Korea, perhaps it might be worth running the course of treatment and see if the virus clears.. after this, you could apply with a clean bill of health!
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