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Korea's Koreaness??
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roll_eks



Joined: 31 Aug 2009
Location: Seoul from Nevada

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:55 am    Post subject: Korea's Koreaness?? Reply with quote

so,
japan has the fujiyama,
france has the effeil tower,
russia has wodka,
germans sausages,
swiss banks,
italians the pope,
afghanistan bin laden,
canadians eskimos,
america trusts in god,

but seriously: what about korea??
seoul is so modern a city it doesnt really feel like kyoto or looks like shanghai with chinese signs, korea seems a mixture of chinese (confucionism) and japanese (the school system and the bureaucracy being modeled after the japanese system) elements....
so i wonder: where is the "essence of korea" located in? what is genuinely korean (that is, not found in its neighboring countries)?
i feel that korea is different from everything else, yet there is nothing that is not found elsewhere either.
kimchee? the red pepper was added after japan brought it to korea.
taekkwondo? its a copy of the japanese karate style.
hangul alphabet? suposedly it has been influenced by other oriental writing systems, and its not really so good to transcribe english pronounciation.
anyway, i'm not trying to denigrating or belittling korean culture here, nor do i want to reduce it to a single cliche, but i'd really want to understand what make korea... korea. and the more i'm thinking of it, the more puzzled i am.

we had a dinner with koreans, and they said "korea is better than japan/china". i asked them why korea is such a great country, but the answer consisted in drinking more sohjoo.
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bobbyhanlon



Joined: 09 Nov 2003
Location: 서울

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bin laden ain't from afghanistan.. he just goes there for the sunny beaches and hot chicks.

anyway for me, korea is located in that precise 'kkaaaaaaaaaaaaa' sound made by an ajosshi, as he slams his soju glass down on to the table, somewhere between the dwaenjang-jjigae bowl and the kimchi dish.
you might think that's a criticism, but it's not.. i do it myself, and i love it!!

korea is the eating and drinking experience, samgyeopsal and enough soju to sink a battleship, followed by noraebang, and all the jeong the whole thing entails!!
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KimchiExplosion



Joined: 01 Jul 2007
Location: Nowhere near Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

New Tourist motto:

Korea: The made-in-China version of Japan

Hey, at least it's better than HiSeoul Razz
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DrOctagon



Joined: 11 Jun 2008
Location: Chicago

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

roll_eks: How's the English practice coming along?
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tacitus14



Joined: 10 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought of posting a reply. But now I'm so dispondent I can only write-

Another internet moron. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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CeleryMan



Joined: 12 Apr 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kimchee and Samsung products... our gifts to humanity.
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Gibberish



Joined: 29 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrOctagon wrote:
roll_eks: How's the English practice coming along?


Gahahahaha
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climber159



Joined: 02 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Korea's Koreaness?? Reply with quote

roll_eks wrote:

russia has wodka,


I know the "V" sound is difficult for you to pronounce, but is really that hard to type?
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oskinny1



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Korea's Koreaness?? Reply with quote

climber159 wrote:
roll_eks wrote:

russia has wodka,


I know the "V" sound is difficult for you to pronounce, but is really that hard to type?


"W" has a "V" sound in many languages. Some "V" words in English are spelled with a "W" in other languages.

The guy is not a native speaker, who cares?
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Korea's Koreaness?? Reply with quote

climber159 wrote:
roll_eks wrote:

russia has wodka,


I know the "V" sound is difficult for you to pronounce, but is really that hard to type?

Its like he's not even trying anymore.
he might as well change his avatar to something along the lines of "sshhh I'm a korean in disguise"
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anjinsan



Joined: 26 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea's "Korean-ness" is there.
It can only be seen if one can get away from seeing
the Orient through our highly Japanified/Sinofied lenses.

Problem is, most Koreans are taught Korean culture through such lenses:
--taekwondo as being part of some long Korean tradition (ha!!!)
--bulgogi as fodder for all Koreans for 5000 years (ha!!!!)
--red kimchi as the cure-all food/medicine of all Koreans for all times
--Korean palace and temple architecture as purely Korean in design/origin
--green tea and some type of ceremony as being popular in Korea throughout the ages
--blah blah blah
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Hightop



Joined: 11 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
japan has the fujiyama


Make that Fujisan. I am tired of these Koreans having no respect for Japan, its people or its culture.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yama means mountain, but 'san' is used when tacking it onto the end of a mountain's name.

Hightop wrote:
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japan has the fujiyama


Make that Fujisan. I am tired of these Koreans having no respect for Japan, its people or its culture.
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Hightop



Joined: 11 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Yama means mountain, but 'san' is used when tacking it onto the end of a mountain's name


Of course yama means mountain but Fujisan should never be refered to as Fujiyama, it should always be refered to as Fujisan. It is very disrespectful in Japanese culture. In Japanese Hito means person but you would not call me 'Hightop hito' you would call me 'Hightop san'. I am tired of Koreans intentionally disrespecting Japan and Japanese culture.
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Konglishman



Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kimchi existed in Korea before the introduction of the red pepper. The only difference was that was not spicy before.

The idea of creating an alphabet may have been inspired by the script being used by the Mongols, but seriously, the design and logic of Hangul is quite unique. Hangul is the only script that can be both considered an alphabet and a syllabary.

There are other martial arts in Korea besides taekwondo. Several of them actually do have a long history in Korea.
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