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Gruzinka



Joined: 10 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:24 pm    Post subject: Public school positions still available? Really?? Reply with quote

Hello Hello,

So I need advice from the Korea veterans around here. I'm 26, female, TESOL certified, and have previous experience teaching abroad. For a couple of reasons I've decided I want to teach in Korea. My first preference is for a job at a decent school (public or private, it doesn't really matter), and one that starts sooner rather than later. I would love to be in Korea by mid October.

I've been in touch with two recruiting agencies so far. Footprints said I might be able to get a job in Korea by mid November and definitely in a haegwon. I've talked to another recruiter who said that there are still some public school positions in rural areas around Seoul and if I was quick about getting my documents together, I could be over there by October.

I know that generally public school positions are preferred but that EPIK isn't hiring again until February. Can anyone tell me if the second recruiter is BSing me? I know the job market is tighter than normal so why would there still be public school positions available? Are these jobs in such awful locations that no one in their right mind would work there? Or is there a small chance that this guy is actually really good at what he does and is telling me the truth? Any advice for the newbie is appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two things you must know about K-land:
1. Recruiters lie;
2. Employers lie.

There are a multitude of EPIK jobs available. PM me and I'll put you in touch with a recruiter who lies less than most.
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Gruzinka



Joined: 10 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't PM you. I haven't posted the minimum number of posts yet. Sad Are there really a number of EPIK jobs still available? That seems run counter to what I've been hearing.
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oldtactics



Joined: 18 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, EPIK always has spots open, especially in rural areas - People leaving, people finishing their contracts, people changing schools, plus there are still LOTS of schools that don't have a foreign teacher but have the funding for one. The program is still expanding.

If you're interested in Gangwon-do, Claire at ESLStarter specializes in EPIK in this province and I know first-hand that they have an intake and orientation in the late fall.

Keep looking!
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look here for Gyeongsangnam-do alone -
http://uni.nayana.com/~getscenter/location-1.htm

As far as I know, this province is unique in allowing the employee to pick his/her actual (main) school.

Never apply for an EPIK position through the national office (or a recruiter who has contracted through the national office) - they can send you virtually anywhere in the country.
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English Matt



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or you could apply for a GEPIK position in Gyeonggi-do. Then at least you won't be stuck miles and miles away from Seoul. And yes, I agree don't go through the GEPIK office, go through a recruiter and deal with the school directly.

The nice thing about GEPIK is that you only have 1 school, so you don't have to truck around all week to different locations.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

English Matt wrote:
The nice thing about GEPIK is that you only have 1 school, so you don't have to truck around all week to different locations.

That's one of the negatives recruiters fail to mention (until after you have signed a PS contract) - read it and assume nothing.

I now 'belong' to my school (part of re-signing negotiations)... but in the first year, the local school board sent me to another school 'in the boonies' once a week. This wasn't too bad... because I made them schedule all my classes (at the second school) in the morning and 'buggered off' after lunch Cool; but, I've seen some newbies who have been assigned as many as six schools. Shocked ... they don't last long.
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gyeongsangnamdo is always hiring for public schools.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D.D. wrote:
Gyeongsangnamdo is always hiring for public schools.

True... and so are all the other provinces.
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Gruzinka



Joined: 10 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are Gyeongsangnam-do schools allowed to hire their teachers directly? Also is a public school position really that much better than working for a private one?
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oldtactics



Joined: 18 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All schools are allowed to hire their teachers directly. Most choose to go through EPIK because the system and the contract are already in place.
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cruisemonkey



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldtactics wrote:
All schools are allowed to hire their teachers directly. Most choose to go through EPIK because the system and the contract are already in place.

...and they're probably unsure of their ability to communicate in English. It's complicated but all PS funding flows from the Ministry of Education, Science and Technology through EPIK to POEs/MOEs and ultimately to individual schools.

The 'secret' is to minimize the number of fingers in the pie. Wink
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myugen



Joined: 21 Jul 2009
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey would u happen to know any good recruiters for hagwons/ps in seoul? i have been searching some job posting boards (korea joblink, korea herald) but its not working out so good and i need a job urgently. any help would be appreciated! btw i cant send pm's yet
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was searching for a school last week, and several recruiters "promised" me public school positions in November. I don't know how serious they were.
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litebear



Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Holland

PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
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Never apply for an EPIK position through the national office (or a recruiter who has contracted through the national office) - they can send you virtually anywhere in the country.


Hi, first time poster.

I'm about to start the application process and would really like to teach in a public school in either Busan or Seoul. I realise that is probably pretty hopeful but I'd be happy just as long as I was in a city enviroment with a decent ex-pat community.

I see your advising not to go through EPIK directly as they reserve the right to send you anywhere in the country. Thanks for the heads up as I had no idea! All the recruiting agencies I seem to find are in someway linked to EPIK, do you know of any recruiters that might be better to go through?

I'd have PM'd you but I don't have the posts yet!
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