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Your flatscreen tv; where did you get it and how much?
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jhicks99



Joined: 04 Mar 2009
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm looking towards getting a Full HD TV in the next month. 42" would be the ideal size. Something that could really rock out Xbox, PS3 and BlueRay for around 1 million give or take.


For 42" a quality 720p set would do you just fine and you'd probably save a bundle. You'd have to have damn good eye sight to even notice a difference between 720p and 1080p at that size unless you're sitting within 3 feet of the screen. I love how people refer to 1080p as "Full" or "True" HD, great marketing to get everyone to think their 3 year old Aquos is already obsolete...
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Gnawbert



Joined: 23 Oct 2007
Location: The Internet

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jhicks99 wrote:
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I'm looking towards getting a Full HD TV in the next month. 42" would be the ideal size. Something that could really rock out Xbox, PS3 and BlueRay for around 1 million give or take.


For 42" a quality 720p set would do you just fine and you'd probably save a bundle. You'd have to have damn good eye sight to even notice a difference between 720p and 1080p at that size unless you're sitting within 3 feet of the screen. I love how people refer to 1080p as "Full" or "True" HD, great marketing to get everyone to think their 3 year old Aquos is already obsolete...


Oooh, very interesting! I do have pretty amazing eyesight, and I can usually spot the difference between 720p and 1080p in the demo rooms. However, I must admit that I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to spotting marketing gimmicks like TRUE HD or FULL HD. Thanks for the heads up!
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jhicks99



Joined: 04 Mar 2009
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oooh, very interesting! I do have pretty amazing eyesight, and I can usually spot the difference between 720p and 1080p in the demo rooms. However, I must admit that I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to spotting marketing gimmicks like TRUE HD or FULL HD. Thanks for the heads up!


Well if you can get a good deal on a 1080p set then go for it.
I'm just saying if it came down to a matter of saving 200,000 won for a quality 720p set I'd get that every time. Most content you'd be feeding it would be native 720p anyway (360 and PS3 games rarely output 1080p and when they do it's nothing mind blowing) and even when you do get to feed it 1080p content your eyes most likely won't be able to spot the difference on a 42" set. That was my point Smile
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Gnawbert



Joined: 23 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jhicks99 wrote:
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Oooh, very interesting! I do have pretty amazing eyesight, and I can usually spot the difference between 720p and 1080p in the demo rooms. However, I must admit that I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to spotting marketing gimmicks like TRUE HD or FULL HD. Thanks for the heads up!


Well if you can get a good deal on a 1080p set then go for it.
I'm just saying if it came down to a matter of saving 200,000 won for a quality 720p set I'd get that every time. Most content you'd be feeding it would be native 720p anyway (360 and PS3 games rarely output 1080p and when they do it's nothing mind blowing) and even when you do get to feed it 1080p content your eyes most likely won't be able to spot the difference on a 42" set. That was my point Smile


You make great points, so thanks again!
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought an open frame one from daum cafe. 42 inch, 1080p, 120hz. Under a million including the stand. It works well for gaming and a PC monitor.
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Easter Clark



Joined: 18 Nov 2007
Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bought an LG Xcanvas:

http://itempage3.auction.co.kr/DetailView.aspx?itemno=A524359528&frm=itempage&frm3=V2

42 inch

80,000:1 Contrast Ratio

2ms Response time

a nice bonus is the 240hz "true motion" feature.

You can find a similar TV in the US but I believe this one is unique to Korea.

The site says 1.2 million but my wife found ours for right at a mill.

This replaced our Crossover 24" Full HD TV, and the difference is night and day.
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Gnawbert



Joined: 23 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Picked up a new model 1080p 40" Samsung PAVV LCD with 80,000:1 contrast for 950,000 at HomePlus. Not sure if I paid too much, but I split it with my girlfriend. Plus the salesman threw in a bunch of Ramen. I think he was just trying to outsell the LG guy trying to sell us on a 47" LG XCanvas nearby.

Quite simply, can't believe how gorgeous Xbox 360 looks on it at full resolution.
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Bloopity Bloop



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy crap... TVs here are expensive as hell.

I don't see why anyone would claim that Korea has cheap electronics.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloopity Bloop wrote:
Holy crap... TVs here are expensive as hell.

I don't see why anyone would claim that Korea has cheap electronics.


I sure as hell have never said that. Quite the opposite.

Korea is a protectionist market, with a population who believe completely in these two things. 1. Anything Made in Korea is high quality. 2. Anything expensive must be high quality and desirable as a status symbol.

Put those two things together and it basically means, Samsung and LG can name their prices.
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jhicks99



Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I sure as hell have never said that. Quite the opposite.

Korea is a protectionist market, with a population who believe completely in these two things. 1. Anything Made in Korea is high quality. 2. Anything expensive must be high quality and desirable as a status symbol.

Put those two things together and it basically means, Samsung and LG can name their prices.


A trip to Taiwan (the other leading electronics country outside of Japan) revealed the same high prices we see in Korea... except for Taiwanese made panels. Protectionism is part of the problem, buying power is another. North America simply consumes the most electronics thus they benefit the most by the economies of scale involved. A country like Canada may only have 33 million people, but considering most live in houses and most probably have multiple LCD panels, computers etc (living room, furnished basement in some cases, bedrooms...) the average family not only makes more than the average Korean family, but also consumes a lot more. It doesn't take much to see why a small country like Canada gets better prices than a bigger country like Korea on most goods. Now add the USA to that 33 million and treat it like a single market and throw in retailers like Best Buy and Wal Mart making mass purchases on a scale the Asian retailers can't match and well.... it's easy to see why North America enjoys the best pricing anywhere on their electronics goods.
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easter Clark wrote:
Bought an LG Xcanvas:

http://itempage3.auction.co.kr/DetailView.aspx?itemno=A524359528&frm=itempage&frm3=V2

42 inch

80,000:1 Contrast Ratio

2ms Response time

a nice bonus is the 240hz "true motion" feature.

You can find a similar TV in the US but I believe this one is unique to Korea.

The site says 1.2 million but my wife found ours for right at a mill.

This replaced our Crossover 24" Full HD TV, and the difference is night and day.


Please find me one for 1 mil Sad Sad
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Easter Clark



Joined: 18 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, not 1 million on the nose, but how about 1,050,000?

http://shopping.naver.com/detail/detail.nhn?cat_id=00020003&nv_mid=5371028953
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station

PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easter Clark wrote:
OK, not 1 million on the nose, but how about 1,050,000?

http://shopping.naver.com/detail/detail.nhn?cat_id=00020003&nv_mid=5371028953


That 50,000 won is a deal-breaker, yo. Now to figure out how to order from gmart.
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Easter Clark



Joined: 18 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You try to help some people out then they bitch and moan about 50k Won.
Rolling Eyes I bet you're the type of guy who'd try to sell leftover toilet paper in the Buy&Sell forum.
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station

PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easter Clark wrote:
You try to help some people out then they bitch and moan about 50k Won.
Rolling Eyes I bet you're the type of guy who'd try to sell leftover toilet paper in the Buy&Sell forum.

I guess if you're on a typical ESLers salary then you'd have a reason to budget tightly, though.


That was a joke which I followed up with "How the hell do I order from gmart?" I obviously want it, and I thank you for posting the link.

p.s. I have some used cooking oil if you're in the market.
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