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saram_
Joined: 13 May 2008
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:13 am Post subject: |
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It certainly is a little bit more difficult to find jobs in Seoul yes if you're Irish..but that can be overcome if you have good experience, good qualifications and more importantly are very understandable. It seems like Irish people have to kind of give up their accent a little and at the very least soften it.. possibly even perhaps AmericaniZe it too to some degree!!
Few places will hire an Irish teacher for the sole purpose of a strong Irish accent about the place- Thats a certainty!
BTW..lots of posters here on about the Irish drinking loads.. You'd actually think that they drank more than people from other countries.. Its a complete exaggeration. Most people I see very drunk in Seoul are not at all Irish.
Just another one these stereotypes that should be overcome!!
Of course many Irish like to drink but then the exact same can be said for many teachers/US Army etc..
No way can anyone say its mainly Irish people you see drunk around Seoul which appears to be the gist of some of the posts in reply here!! |
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livinginkorea

Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Location: Korea, South of the border
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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Two Irish people where I teach. Haven't met many here, but there is a big Paddy's Day parade every year which is full of North Americans!  |
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7drunkennights
Joined: 09 Jul 2009
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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And by the way my name is in reference to the dubiners song, seven drunken nights, not any kind of lifestyle I lead, sorry if that ruins your day!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jujqyVez2jw
Once you speak slowly and clearly you will have no problems at an interview. If the school only wants an american accent you wont get to the interview stage. |
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mulligc3
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Irish people here.
Are we the only ones who don't get our pension back?
I think so. It's quite a lot of money isn't it?
Like 90,000 a month we pay, the school pays that too so in total about 180,000 a month is total contribution. Of course, this is related to your salary.
This is counted toward our Irish pension so they say, some agreement in place.
So it works out that we pay just over a million for the year.
Not happy!!!
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Carla
Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| mulligc3 wrote: |
Irish people here.
Are we the only ones who don't get our pension back?
I think so. It's quite a lot of money isn't it?
Like 90,000 a month we pay, the school pays that too so in total about 180,000 a month is total contribution. Of course, this is related to your salary.
This is counted toward our Irish pension so they say, some agreement in place.
So it works out that we pay just over a million for the year.
Not happy!!!
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From what I understand, American and Canadians get lump sums. And almost everybody else gets it to their pension plans back home. Isn't there one country that just gets completely lost? South Africa? I forget, but I think there is one that doesn't get a lump sum and doesn't get it transferred to their home country.
Anybody know 100% which countries get it and which countries don't? |
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Bucky
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Vancouver (formerly Yongsan-gu, Seoul)
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| My roomie at orientation was Irish, and worked in many countries as an English teacher with no problems. |
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Mr. Pink

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| saram_ wrote: |
It certainly is a little bit more difficult to find jobs in Seoul yes if you're Irish..but that can be overcome if you have good experience, good qualifications and more importantly are very understandable. It seems like Irish people have to kind of give up their accent a little and at the very least soften it.. possibly even perhaps AmericaniZe it too to some degree!!
Few places will hire an Irish teacher for the sole purpose of a strong Irish accent about the place- Thats a certainty!
BTW..lots of posters here on about the Irish drinking loads.. You'd actually think that they drank more than people from other countries.. Its a complete exaggeration. Most people I see very drunk in Seoul are not at all Irish.
Just another one these stereotypes that should be overcome!!
Of course many Irish like to drink but then the exact same can be said for many teachers/US Army etc..
No way can anyone say its mainly Irish people you see drunk around Seoul which appears to be the gist of some of the posts in reply here!! |
You don't see a lot of Irish out drunk because frankly there just aren't that many in Korea. My good buddy is Irish American and he can drink more than 90% of those who I have come into contact with in Korea. I met an Irish guy at a friend's house party and that guy drank so much I thought he was going for a record. There has to be something genetically enabled for people of Irish decent to drink so much and not end up in the emergency ward.
Oh, and even though I am not Irish, they are after my lucky charms as well. |
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Carla
Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:30 am Post subject: |
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| Mr. Pink wrote: |
| saram_ wrote: |
It certainly is a little bit more difficult to find jobs in Seoul yes if you're Irish..but that can be overcome if you have good experience, good qualifications and more importantly are very understandable. It seems like Irish people have to kind of give up their accent a little and at the very least soften it.. possibly even perhaps AmericaniZe it too to some degree!!
Few places will hire an Irish teacher for the sole purpose of a strong Irish accent about the place- Thats a certainty!
BTW..lots of posters here on about the Irish drinking loads.. You'd actually think that they drank more than people from other countries.. Its a complete exaggeration. Most people I see very drunk in Seoul are not at all Irish.
Just another one these stereotypes that should be overcome!!
Of course many Irish like to drink but then the exact same can be said for many teachers/US Army etc..
No way can anyone say its mainly Irish people you see drunk around Seoul which appears to be the gist of some of the posts in reply here!! |
You don't see a lot of Irish out drunk because frankly there just aren't that many in Korea. My good buddy is Irish American and he can drink more than 90% of those who I have come into contact with in Korea. I met an Irish guy at a friend's house party and that guy drank so much I thought he was going for a record. There has to be something genetically enabled for people of Irish decent to drink so much and not end up in the emergency ward.
Oh, and even though I am not Irish, they are after my lucky charms as well. |
I have some Irish in me... errr, that didn't come out right.... and I rarely drink. When I do, I can drink asians under the table. Because people don't see me drink often, they think they can outdrink me. Hehehe, so far, I've never lost that bet.
As for the genetics. I recall something in high school, something I was researching. Irish tended to drink alcohol more because of limited safe drinking waters in their history and built up a tolerance. Same thing with sugar, while most of the western world incorporated sugar into their diets, American Indians were completely cut off, and never gained the processing ability. That is unfortuately one of the reasons for such high diabetes and alcoholism, both are related to the ability to process sugar. |
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iammac2002
Joined: 12 Jun 2009 Location: 'n Beter plek.
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:20 am Post subject: |
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| Oh my, aren't we being racist? |
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NightSky
Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| worked with an Irish guy recently, nice fella, but I didn't understand what he was saying half the time, so I can't imagine how his students did. |
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livinginkorea

Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Location: Korea, South of the border
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Same as every other country, certain accents in certain locations are harder to understand. A lot of Koreans have this problem too in their own country. .
A lot of people forget that when we speak to students we speak a little slower, with less collocations and such depending on their level compared to native speakers. |
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Ro2
Joined: 23 Jun 2009
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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I'm from Dublin, in Seoul looking for work at the moment. I found it a bit difficult to get replies from recruiters when I was applying from other countries (I was travelling elsewhere in Asia) but now that I'm in Korea, with a Korean mobile number, I'm making progress. I have been told that the accent makes Koreans a bit hesitant, but I'm getting plenty of phone calls here now about work.
But as any Irish person knows, there is no one Irish accent - my own accent (what might be considered a "D4" accent) is, I am told, much easier to understand than a lot of other other accents you hear in Ireland. Still, while on the phone i've been careful to avoid using any contractions, spoke a bit slower than usual etc. Seems to be helping.
So far, I haven't met any other Irish people, having been around Busan and Seoul over the last couple of weeks. I know of one other irish guy who is in Seoul, and one in Daegu, that's it. To be honest I've met hardly any non-North-Americans, one scottish guy in Seoul, a few english, that's all. Met LOADS of americans and canadians. |
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litebear
Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Holland
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:49 am Post subject: |
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I'm from Dublin, in Seoul looking for work at the moment. I found it a bit difficult to get replies from recruiters when I was applying from other countries (I was travelling elsewhere in Asia) but now that I'm in Korea, with a Korean mobile number, I'm making progress. I have been told that the accent makes Koreans a bit hesitant, but I'm getting plenty of phone calls here now about work.
But as any Irish person knows, there is no one Irish accent - my own accent (what might be considered a "D4" accent) is, I am told, much easier to understand than a lot of other other accents you hear in Ireland. Still, while on the phone i've been careful to avoid using any contractions, spoke a bit slower than usual etc. Seems to be helping.
So far, I haven't met any other Irish people, having been around Busan and Seoul over the last couple of weeks. I know of one other irish guy who is in Seoul, and one in Daegu, that's it. To be honest I've met hardly any non-North-Americans, one scottish guy in Seoul, a few english, that's all. Met LOADS of americans and canadians. |
Mate, I'm from Scotland and I'm wanting to go to Korea in Feb/March 2010, do you think I might have similar problems with accent? I'm from Glasgow but after a few years doing uni in Edinburgh my accent isn't as bad as it was! |
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Ro2
Joined: 23 Jun 2009
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:00 am Post subject: |
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I'm from Dublin, in Seoul looking for work at the moment. I found it a bit difficult to get replies from recruiters when I was applying from other countries (I was travelling elsewhere in Asia) but now that I'm in Korea, with a Korean mobile number, I'm making progress. I have been told that the accent makes Koreans a bit hesitant, but I'm getting plenty of phone calls here now about work.
But as any Irish person knows, there is no one Irish accent - my own accent (what might be considered a "D4" accent) is, I am told, much easier to understand than a lot of other other accents you hear in Ireland. Still, while on the phone i've been careful to avoid using any contractions, spoke a bit slower than usual etc. Seems to be helping.
So far, I haven't met any other Irish people, having been around Busan and Seoul over the last couple of weeks. I know of one other irish guy who is in Seoul, and one in Daegu, that's it. To be honest I've met hardly any non-North-Americans, one scottish guy in Seoul, a few english, that's all. Met LOADS of americans and canadians. |
Mate, I'm from Scotland and I'm wanting to go to Korea in Feb/March 2010, do you think I might have similar problems with accent? I'm from Glasgow but after a few years doing uni in Edinburgh my accent isn't as bad as it was! |
Well like i mentioned, I have scottish friend who teaches in a good area on the outskirts of Seoul. He's from Glasgow! And this is his second job in Korea. And he's told me of other scottish people teaching here. So the answer is that it's not an insurmountable problem. They will want to talk to you on the phone at some point after you apply, and that'll be in part to size up your accent. In principle, scottish accent would be one of the less preferred ones for schools as far as i know (still better than irish, i'm told), but if you've a decent cv you'll be fine. |
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litebear
Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Holland
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:16 am Post subject: |
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Well like i mentioned, I have scottish friend who teaches in a good area on the outskirts of Seoul. He's from Glasgow! And this is his second job in Korea. And he's told me of other scottish people teaching here. So the answer is that it's not an insurmountable problem. They will want to talk to you on the phone at some point after you apply, and that'll be in part to size up your accent. In principle, scottish accent would be one of the less preferred ones for schools as far as i know (still better than irish, i'm told), but if you've a decent cv you'll be fine. |
Thanks for replying man I think the bit in bold will be my stumbling block as I have no previous teaching experience. Might have to settle for teaching outside of Seoul first to gain some experience!
Have you taught before, if you don't mind me asking? |
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