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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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quote][b]So worried you were for the Israeli prisioner, and so unconcerned for the thousands of Palestinian prisoners (including child prisoners locked up in violation of international law). [/quote]
Yes, I worry more about an Israeli prisoner than a palestinian because they seem to have shorter life spans. The fact that Israel or its supporters have prisoners and the Palestinians and thier supporters have bodies should be a concern for everyone.
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I would be interested in hearing your response as to why this occurs.
Why have palestinians or Hizbellah killed thier prisoners and sent the bodies back, while Israel managed to send a live terrorist/prisoner home in return.
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What has this post got to do with Islam and Gays? Nothing at all.
Why do you keep dribbling your off-topic jism all over these threads? You created a thread especially for that topic, don't you remember?
Here is your prisoner thread |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: Next to a River
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:36 am Post subject: |
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I simply responded to a part of a posting that you made on this issue.
Thats all. It was not taken from another posting but from one of the above pages. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Summer Wine wrote: |
I simply responded to a part of a posting that you made on this issue.
Thats all. It was not taken from another posting but from one of the above pages. |
Summer wine, go and look at your first post on this thread. It had sweet f*** all to do with homosexuals and Islam. |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: Next to a River
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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BB said This is my one and only post on the topic:
SW said "How long did that promise last BB?"
LOL, ah I like you.
Though you do take yourself too seriously.
We all have our beliefs and we would all probably think less of someone who gave them up too easily. LOL |
(In response to the last posting to BB to me)
Good point.
Origionally I was just responding to the above comment you made. I wasn't specificly targeting you. I would have called any one on that statement if they had made that claim and then made a posting, just as you have comments towards my postings. No probs.
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Big_Bird
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Iraq was bad enough under Saddam, but at least he kept the religious loons in check. Our ill thought out 'liberation' seems to have unleashed horror on Iraq in so many ways...
How Islamist gangs use internet to track, torture and kill Iraqi gays
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Homosexuality was not criminalised under Saddam Hussein � indeed Iraq in the 1960s and 1970s was known for its relatively liberated gay scene. Violence against gays started in the aftermath of the invasion in 2003. Since 2004, according to Ali Hali, chairman of the Iraqi LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender) group, a London-based human-rights group, a total of 680 have died in Iraq, with at least 70 of those in the past five months. The group believes the figures may be higher, as most cases involving married men are not reported. Seven victims were women. According to Hali, Iraq has become "the worst place for homosexuals on Earth".
The killings are brutal, with victims ritually tortured. Azhar al-Saeed's son was one. "He didn't follow what Islamic doctrine tells but he was a good son," she said. "Three days after his kidnapping, I found a note on my door with blood spread over it and a message saying it was my son's purified blood and telling me where to find his body."
She went with police to find her son's remains. "We found his body with signs of torture, his anus filled with glue and without his genitals," she said. "I will carry this image with me until my dying day."
Police officers interviewed by the Observer said the killings were not aimed at gays but were isolated remnants of the sectarian violence that racked the country between 2005 and 2006. Hamizi's group, however, boasts that two people a day are chosen to be "investigated" in Baghdad. The group claims that local tribes are involved in homophobic attacks, choosing members to hunt down the victims. In some areas, a list of names is posted at restaurants and food shops.
The roommate of Haydar, 26, was kidnapped and killed three months ago in Baghdad. After Haydar contacted the last person his friend had been chatting with on the net, he found a letter on his front door alerting him "about the dangers of behaving against Islamic rules". Haydar plans to flee to Amman, the Jordanian capital. "I have� to run away before I suffer the same fate," he said.
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK
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| Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:35 am Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
| Iraq was bad enough under Saddam, but at least he kept the religious loons in check. |
Albeit with a brutal system of spying and torture.
Anyway, if Saddam was so much better for Iraq, at least he was an American puppet. Why must we take the blame for the chaos that occurred having removed Saddam, but not the credit for the relative harmony he brought to this hellhole of Muslim crackpotism?
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| Our ill thought out 'liberation' seems to have unleashed horror on Iraq in so many ways... |
There are many horrors which our 'liberation' is directly responsible for - goodness knows how many innocent people were killed. But I fail to see how Islamists using their new-found ability to operate more freely in order to kill homosexuals is anyone's fault but theirs (and Islam's) |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Sergio Stefanuto wrote: |
| Big_Bird wrote: |
| Iraq was bad enough under Saddam, but at least he kept the religious loons in check. |
Albeit with a brutal system of spying and torture.
Anyway, if Saddam was so much better for Iraq, at least he was an American puppet. Why must we take the blame for the chaos that occurred having removed Saddam, but not the credit for the relative harmony he brought to this hellhole of Muslim crackpotism?
| Big Bird wrote: |
| Our ill thought out 'liberation' seems to have unleashed horror on Iraq in so many ways... |
There are many horrors which our 'liberation' is directly responsible for - goodness knows how many innocent people were killed. But I fail to see how Islamists using their new-found ability to operate more freely in order to kill homosexuals is anyone's fault but theirs (and Islam's) |
Our stupid war brought anarchy to Iraq. The Bush ideologues, against all sane advice, disbanded the ENTIRE system, creating a power vacuum to be filled by vicious thugs, and the war brought nothing but trouble and debt for us. But you support it....for reasons I can't fathom. |
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