| View previous topic :: View next topic | 
	
	
		| Author | Message | 
	
		| hochhasd 
 
  
 Joined: 05 Jul 2008
 
 
 | 
			
				|  Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:00 am    Post subject: When your korean co-teacher says |   |  
				| 
 |  
				| I was wondering when your Korean co-teacher says ,"it is my opinion I am giving you,"is this another way of saying I want you to do it? I got a little frustrated today with my co-teacher for not explaining clearly what she wanted. I guess I am only human,but is she trying to say I want you to do the task this way by saying the word opinion?    |  | 
	
		| Back to top |  | 
	
		|  | 
	
		| tenchu77491 
 
 
 Joined: 16 Mar 2009
 
 
 | 
			
				|  Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:03 am    Post subject: |   |  
				| 
 |  
				| Handle it the way I handle it. Just say "maybe, I'll try". This works with anything. Even if they ask you to come in early. |  | 
	
		| Back to top |  | 
	
		|  | 
	
		| hochhasd 
 
  
 Joined: 05 Jul 2008
 
 
 | 
			
				|  Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:09 am    Post subject: |   |  
				| 
 |  
				| 
 
	  | tenchu77491 wrote: |  
	  | Handle it the way I handle it. Just say "maybe, I'll try". This works with anything. Even if they ask you to come in early. |  I answered by saying," that I am frustrated,but tell me what you want me to do and I will do it,but please be a little clearer next time". who knows if that worked? This is the first time I ever got frustrated to the point that the co-teachers could see it.
 |  | 
	
		| Back to top |  | 
	
		|  | 
	
		| tenchu77491 
 
 
 Joined: 16 Mar 2009
 
 
 | 
			
				|  Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:11 am    Post subject: |   |  
				| 
 |  
				| Why would you let someone get to you? Just reply in a way that's equally as clear as her. If she doesn't get the message she will be more clear, then you match her clarity with your own. |  | 
	
		| Back to top |  | 
	
		|  | 
	
		| andrewchon 
 
  
 Joined: 16 Nov 2008
 Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
 
 | 
			
				|  Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:15 am    Post subject: |   |  
				| 
 |  
				| I don't think we can guess what your co-teacher's intent is. We simply don't have enough information. My speculation is this: Communication problem with your co-teacher is not the primary problem. Your way is not working but you don't want to admit defeat. Would this be right?
 |  | 
	
		| Back to top |  | 
	
		|  | 
	
		| hochhasd 
 
  
 Joined: 05 Jul 2008
 
 
 | 
			
				|  Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:16 am    Post subject: |   |  
				| 
 |  
				| 
 
	  | tenchu77491 wrote: |  
	  | Why would you let someone get to you? Just reply in a way that's equally as clear as her. If she doesn't get the message she will be more clear, then you match her clarity with your own. |  I usually do not,but this one time I did and she is usually clear on what she wants done,but this time she was not,especially when I already finished what she wanted  me to do and it was wrong.
 |  | 
	
		| Back to top |  | 
	
		|  | 
	
		| tenchu77491 
 
 
 Joined: 16 Mar 2009
 
 
 | 
			
				|  Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:18 am    Post subject: |   |  
				| 
 |  
				| 
 
	  | hochhasd wrote: |  
	  | 
 
	  | tenchu77491 wrote: |  
	  | Why would you let someone get to you? Just reply in a way that's equally as clear as her. If she doesn't get the message she will be more clear, then you match her clarity with your own. |  I usually do not,but this one time I did and she is usually clear on what she wants done,but this time she was not,especially when I already finished what she wanted  me to do and it was wrong.
 |  
 Then ignore her, or try to actually understand her. Tell her to write it down.
 |  | 
	
		| Back to top |  | 
	
		|  | 
	
		| hochhasd 
 
  
 Joined: 05 Jul 2008
 
 
 | 
			
				|  Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:21 am    Post subject: |   |  
				| 
 |  
				| 
 
	  | andrewchon wrote: |  
	  | I don't think we can guess what your co-teacher's intent is. We simply don't have enough information. My speculation is this: Communication problem with your co-teacher is not the primary problem. Your way is not working but you don't want to admit defeat. Would this be right?
 |  I get along great with my co-teacher ,but this time I got frustrated because I just worked hard on something and she said in roundabout way this is my opinion. I asked her afterwards are we good and she said yes. I was just wondering if the word opinion means I want you to change it and if it is only human to get frustrated with a Korean teacher,being I am in there country.
 |  | 
	
		| Back to top |  | 
	
		|  | 
	
		| hochhasd 
 
  
 Joined: 05 Jul 2008
 
 
 | 
			
				|  Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:24 am    Post subject: |   |  
				| 
 |  
				| 
 
	  | tenchu77491 wrote: |  
	  | 
 
	  | hochhasd wrote: |  
	  | 
 
	  | tenchu77491 wrote: |  
	  | Why would you let someone get to you? Just reply in a way that's equally as clear as her. If she doesn't get the message she will be more clear, then you match her clarity with your own. |  I usually do not,but this one time I did and she is usually clear on what she wants done,but this time she was not,especially when I already finished what she wanted  me to do and it was wrong.
 |  
 Then ignore her, or try to actually understand her. Tell her to write it down.
 |  Great idea! I am going to have the co-teachers write what they want to avoid any misunderstanding. Thanks
 |  | 
	
		| Back to top |  | 
	
		|  | 
	
		| andrewchon 
 
  
 Joined: 16 Nov 2008
 Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
 
 | 
			
				|  Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:39 am    Post subject: |   |  
				| 
 |  
				| Sounds like you've had your heart broken (not in romantic sense). Let me guess: a Friday afternoon lesson didn't work as well as you expected?
 All that effort you put in just went down the toilet? Perhaps she did that because there's nothing one can say in that situation.
 |  | 
	
		| Back to top |  | 
	
		|  | 
	
		| Chambertin 
 
 
 Joined: 07 Jun 2009
 Location: Gunsan
 
 | 
			
				|  Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:55 am    Post subject: |   |  
				| 
 |  
				| Talk like you are in grade school when trouble arises. Learn about the situation first, as the words often mislead.
 
 Although you and they are both clearly on a higher level in language, intelligence and ability, these mean nothing when frustration and higher politics come into play.
 
 In my experience that phrase: it is my opinion I am giving you, holds a higher meaning, but which one of many is undecipherable.  The two of you must hash it out, and even possibly the three of you if the order came from higher up and they were trying to relay the message to you.
 
 Remember: Stupid is as stupid does.
 
 If you overreact or assume you understood it then trouble may result.  I think many here have had nothing but the sort and will wish you to continue down the path.  There is nothing lost in asking for clarification, it is how you ask that matters.
 
 Pissing matches benefit no one but the wind.  A wise man once said.
 
 Break down the language to fifth grade playground rumble, it may seem insulting but lets face it, clarity of message once will outweigh weeks of annoyance over one or two misrepresented words.
 
 Give them a wide berth; after all they are in the hot seat.  They have to try to translate a number of things to you that may be well above their ability with no thanks in the matter.  You have to show up.
 This is not taking sides this is rationality.
 
 With that being said try to work with them and be genuinely interested. The direct translation method is a beast to deal with as it has no real meaning.  Do your best to translate the situation.  As I said in the beginning, pretend you are 5th graders on the playground and learn about the situation not the words.
 
 The better you work together the better the rest of your days will be.
 |  | 
	
		| Back to top |  | 
	
		|  | 
	
		|  |