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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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I saw a couple of foreign guys on TV last night....one was a lanky Jewish American (I think) with a rubber face and comicly massive nose. The other was a British guy who also has a rubber face....both of the men are fluent in Korean and are on Korean TV reguarly....they were acting out the differences in British and American English infront of a "celebrity" studio audience...they were like a couple of performing monkeys!!
My toes were curling.Who are these Guys? |
I watched that too. It was silly in some ways, but just the fact that the guys can also speak Korean makes them less monkey-like in Korean people's eyes, don't you think? At least they have that. |
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Shincheon_Blues
Joined: 16 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Most foreigners sell their souls to get on Korean TV. If they want to act like asses, let 'em. |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| as we somehow seem to have found ourselves ruling the world. |
JeeSUS, Kiwi  Who 'dis 'we'? Since when did New Zealand rule the world, maybe you're talking about rugby? |
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indiercj
Joined: 30 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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hehe... pretty good one.
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So I take it that you find this racism amusing? In that case you'll keep your mouth shut about all the horrible "racism" you see on this board. Clearly racism is fine with you.
All countries have faults, but one thing you could definitely say is that no joke like that would ever make it past a publisher in the west.
And it's interesting that we are stupid, as we somehow seem to have found ourselves ruling the world, dumb luck I guess. |
My apology. I didn't know foreign was a race. Stupid me! |
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waggo
Joined: 18 May 2003
Location: pusan baby!
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Corporal wrote: |
| waggo wrote: |
I saw a couple of foreign guys on TV last night....one was a lanky Jewish American (I think) with a rubber face and comicly massive nose. The other was a British guy who also has a rubber face....both of the men are fluent in Korean and are on Korean TV reguarly....they were acting out the differences in British and American English infront of a "celebrity" studio audience...they were like a couple of performing monkeys!!
My toes were curling.Who are these Guys? |
I watched that too. It was silly in some ways, but just the fact that the guys can also speak Korean makes them less monkey-like in Korean people's eyes, don't you think? At least they have that. |
Yeah thats true and Kudos to them for mastering the language.
They are obviously intelligent guys so why do they feel they have to act so ridiculously to entertain the Koreans.Theyve obviously sussed out what the Koreans want from them and if that is two act like monkeys then i find that a little disturbing.On the other hand Korean entertainment often appears to me to be at a very immature level anyway. |
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nolin nae
Joined: 23 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| My apology. I didn't know foreign was a race. Stupid me! |
that's ok, english isn't your first langauge. just for your edification:
RACIST: The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=%20racist%20
so yes, when koreans feel that they are somehow superior to "foreigners" they are indeed espousing racist views. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| I would feel less silly acting out English accents on tv a few times than singing 'under the spreading chestnut tree' and various other classics in a hagwon kindergarten class every morning for less money... |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 1:05 am Post subject: |
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| waggo wrote: |
I saw a couple of foreign guys on TV last night....one was a lanky Jewish American (I think) with a rubber face and comicly massive nose. The other was a British guy who also has a rubber face....both of the men are fluent in Korean and are on Korean TV reguarly....they were acting out the differences in British and American English infront of a "celebrity" studio audience...they were like a couple of performing monkeys!!
My toes were curling.Who are these Guys? |
To be fair, Matthew (the British one) is a fun guy and acts that way in real life as well. |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 1:59 am Post subject: |
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JeeSUS, Kiwi Who 'dis 'we'? Since when did New Zealand rule the world, maybe you're talking about rugby?
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That would be westerners dude. Playing dumb is an immature tactic.
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| My apology. I didn't know foreign was a race. Stupid me! |
Stupid you indeed. You don't have to be attacking one race only to be acting racist. If you believe your own race is superior to all others you're very much in the racist camp. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 2:52 am Post subject: |
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Stupid people are in every nation..when we learn to completely see past a person's race, and focus only on their attitude, disposition, or personality, then we'll advance a lot further.
It'd be good if all countries in the world did it simultaneously. The problem is that only western nations seem to be leading by example- and are getting taken advantage of because of it... |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:08 am Post subject: |
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| [Well so many countries are going through or have gone through that process, it takes time to develop a bilingual culture, a long time. And I've met countless Koreans who can artulate deep thought in English, so have you. At least they are trying, no English speaking countries make that effort. In fact I doubt most English speaking countries are actually capable of it. So who's stupid? |
I agree, english speaking countries lack skills in other languages.... but of course if i spent a lot of cash learning a language, I'd pick it up fairly quickly. It'd take a lot less time than a decade of weekly classes and a small fortune. And Other countries seem to be a lot better at learning english than korea. so who's stupid? |
Well if you were a ten year old kid, I think you would take a lot longer to learn a foreign language. Who really wants to learn a foreign language at that age anyway. Most hakwons are not designed for learning regardless and most kids don't really want to learn English anyway. If you taught really motivated adults, I bet they would be speaking reasonably fluent English in quite a bit less than a decade. |
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ThisCharmingMan
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| rapier wrote: |
Stupid people are in every nation..when we learn to completely see past a person's race, and focus only on their attitude, disposition, or personality, then we'll advance a lot further.
It'd be good if all countries in the world did it simultaneously. The problem is that only western nations seem to be leading by example- and are getting taken advantage of because of it... |
Anybody remember an incident a sveral days ago where a Chinese NBA player was referred to as a "Chinaman" from a radio personality?I know the offender profusely apologized and the PR camp offered to air anti-racist PA, but do you actually believe it was purely an accident par ignorance?Even if it was an accident, western nations aren't the only ones getting taken advantage of. |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| Well if you were a ten year old kid, I think you would take a lot longer to learn a foreign language. Who really wants to learn a foreign language at that age anyway. Most hakwons are not designed for learning regardless and most kids don't really want to learn English anyway. If you taught really motivated adults, I bet they would be speaking reasonably fluent English in quite a bit less than a decade. |
It is believed that a person has a much higher chance of becoming fluent in a language if they start before adolescence, the mind is much more flexible and the memory is better when a person is young. |
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lush72
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: I am Penalty Kick!
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:05 am Post subject: |
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| I would feel less silly acting out English accents on tv a few times than singing 'under the spreading chestnut tree' and various other classics in a hagwon kindergarten class every morning for less money... |
Buhaha! Mithridates, BRAVO SIR! BRAVO! |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:16 am Post subject: |
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| I'd be interested to see wether Koreans learn better from a Native speaker teacher in a hakwon setting or in a govt. school setting. I reckon hakwons are generally inneficient at teaching English. |
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