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jpmac83
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 Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:56 am Post subject: A question about the Criminal Records Check |
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I was wondering if anyone could help me out. I am looking into returning to Korea for a second go around. It seems though that I may have a problem. two months ago, I was caught for impaired driving, and now I have a Criminal Record, something I am not proud of btw. Seeing as my record has nothing to do with children whatsoever, I am of the belief that my crc should be approved.
Has anyone else incurred this type of problem? Any advice/information would be greatly appreciated. |
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Deep Thirteen
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Location: Swamp Land
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:22 am Post subject: |
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| I'm pretty sure kentucker4 had this problem. |
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Skippy
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, another I have a something on my CRC check and can I thread?
You are likely screwed. It does not matter if it is not related to kids. Its a crime! Many people who have had previous minor convictions from shoplifting to a push match fight have been denied a visa. Also you have the double whammy of it still being a very new conviction.
I would try and see if you could get your record expunged but I think not with it being two months old.
You have to understand two things about Korea.
1) Do not expect logic and logic to be understood. Somebody has a pot conviction from twenty years ago. They are clean now, heck you can make him a pastor of a church, and a handsome face to boot. Yet some official will all over look that and see POT. Visa Denied to hippy pot head.
2) Consistency - The joke is you could go to one immigration office ask a question get an answer. Go to a another office in another city ask the same question and get a completely different answer. Hell, you could likely go to a different desk at the office and get another answer. Heck I would not be surprised if you asked 5 minutes later wearing a groucho mask with mustache and get another answer.
In the end, all you can do is try. But I would be very prepared for rejection.
Good Luck
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Gibberish
Joined: 29 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| If you're getting caught for impaired driving, Korea is not the place to go. |
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timmayyyyy
Joined: 18 May 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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| You can try getting a CRC from another state to avoid Immigration seeing anything on your record. I can't promise it'll work, but I'm in the same boat as you and I'm gonna try it in the next couple weeks. |
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mammolastan
Joined: 06 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:11 pm Post subject: Me too |
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I also have been convicted of a minor offense -- Minor in possession of alcohol. This occurred about 4 years ago.
Would something like that be a problem for Visa acceptance? |
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blonde researcher
Joined: 16 Oct 2006
Location: Globalizing in Korea for the time being
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| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:20 am Post subject: |
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An across the board policy seems to be applying in last 6 months
if anything is on your CRC, no matter how minor, then you wont get the visa.
This includes arrested and charges dropped, or probation and any drink offence
The Office of education EPIK and SMOE jobs seem to be the worst for having a firm line.
Don't like your chances at all |
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HeyBro
Joined: 01 Jul 2009
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I read some EPIK info which said "do you have a criminal record other than a minor traffic offense". When i read this i thought thank god, coz i've got a "failure to stop at red traffic light" charge from 10 years ago on my cbc. My recruiter also cleared it and said it'll be fine even with the new restrictions. However, basically, if its related to drugs/alcohol then you're stuffed.
From what i've been told - recruiters will not risk bothering with you at the moment. There's too many people to bother risking having you denied. Even if there's a chance you'll be accepted, they'd rather put forth someone with a clean check. |
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Mr. Susan
Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Location: death row
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| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:59 am Post subject: |
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| A country full of drunk drivers declining a drunk driver for a visa? I guess you can have too many drunk drivers at a party. |
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romano812
Joined: 09 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:02 am Post subject: I would say probably not a problem |
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| I have met many people (foreigners) with crimninal records in Korea. I would guess if it's not recent and it's not anything major, you should be fine. |
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mammolastan
Joined: 06 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:12 am Post subject: |
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Are there any tips and hints that I may need to know when applying for a Visa when I do have an Underage Alcohol charge on my record? Any specific info that would help me get cleared for a Visa?
Or can I just get a CRC from a different state altogether? |
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Reise-ohne-Ende
Joined: 07 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:44 am Post subject: |
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Heck I would not be surprised if you asked 5 minutes later wearing a groucho mask with mustache and get another answer.
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This made me lol, for real. People looked at me.
Re: CBCs...honestly, I'm sure there are other countries in the world that you could teach at that would not care about some of these offenses. But the fact of the matter is that Korea is not interested in people with a criminal record, especially anything involving alcohol - every site I've looked at makes that abundantly clear.
I would spend my time looking for a better fit. Besides, even if you did get hired over there, it would probably not be by a very reputable company, and you really don't want to work for a crappy company in Korea.
Best of luck to everyone though!!
ETA: I don't know how getting a CBC in another state would work unless you moved there. They're going to look at your address, your apostilles, your notarized documents, your current employer, etc. If all of that is in Florida and you got a CBC in Georgia, they're going to know something fishy is going on. Plus, it would mean that future applicants might have to get nationwide background checks, which is really inconsiderate. Like I said, find a better fit! |
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romano812
Joined: 09 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:08 am Post subject: LMAO |
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| "But the fact of the matter is that Korea is not interested in people with a criminal record, especially anything involving alcohol - every site I've looked at makes that abundantly clear." |
I can barely stop laughing, I find this so funny. Koreans are known as 'The Irish of the Orient". Koreans (of course not all Koreans) are always stumbling around drunk, sleeping on the street, sleeping at work, puking at the bus stops in the morning. Alcoholism is not considered a disorder in Korea because it is the norm. If you have a DUI or alcohol related charge they are probably more likely to hire you (truthfully from what I have seen alcohol related charges won't be a big deal).
Just my opinion. |
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Reise-ohne-Ende
Joined: 07 Sep 2009
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I can barely stop laughing, I find this so funny. Koreans are known as 'The Irish of the Orient". Koreans (of course not all Koreans) are always stumbling around drunk, sleeping on the street, sleeping at work, puking at the bus stops in the morning. Alcoholism is not considered a disorder in Korea because it is the norm. If you have a DUI or alcohol related charge they are probably more likely to hire you (truthfully from what I have seen alcohol related charges won't be a big deal).
Just my opinion. |
And a valid one at that. That said, everything I've read from my recruiter, from the EPIK website, and from other people emphasizes that "a DUI is not a minor traffic offense."
Perhaps I took this to be more prohibitive than it was intended to be.
And yes, you're right, Koreans definitely have a thing for alcohol, but their immigration and hiring procedures are not known to be the most logical or fair-minded either.  |
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mammolastan
Joined: 06 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Heck I would not be surprised if you asked 5 minutes later wearing a groucho mask with mustache and get another answer.
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This made me lol, for real. People looked at me.
Re: CBCs...honestly, I'm sure there are other countries in the world that you could teach at that would not care about some of these offenses. But the fact of the matter is that Korea is not interested in people with a criminal record, especially anything involving alcohol - every site I've looked at makes that abundantly clear.
I would spend my time looking for a better fit. Besides, even if you did get hired over there, it would probably not be by a very reputable company, and you really don't want to work for a crappy company in Korea.
Best of luck to everyone though!!
ETA: I don't know how getting a CBC in another state would work unless you moved there. They're going to look at your address, your apostilles, your notarized documents, your current employer, etc. If all of that is in Florida and you got a CBC in Georgia, they're going to know something fishy is going on. Plus, it would mean that future applicants might have to get nationwide background checks, which is really inconsiderate. Like I said, find a better fit! |
Considering that you are saying I will be unable to get a Visa with a MIP charge from years ago, to what country may you suggest having better luck applying for an employment Visa?
Also, I do not understand why you say to "find a better fit". If I were an alcoholic, or I really enjoyed getting drunk, then from what I'm reading it seems that Korea would be ideal.
And what is the acronym ETA that you have included here? |
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