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Enrico Palazzo
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 Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:27 pm Post subject: The JFK and 9/11 sticky pact is being violated or not? |
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| I would like to hear from posters as to what is happening on the 9/11 thread. Is there a person or are their persons violating the understanding that there wouldn't be multiple conspiracy threads and there would be stickies and people would be civil to the respective OPs or those who espousing those views. There is an allegation that Joo has been harassing Bacasper and Nowhereman as well. I would like to get some feedback as to what's going on. We don't want to favor one person over another. We just want to know if the understanding is being violated. That is not amusing, if that's the case. |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| What happened on the 9/11 thread is that I posted on page 46 an open letter from Charlie Sheen to President Obama which was published in hundreds of news outlets, mainstream as well as alternative. However, Joo happened to take exception to the one I happened to copy it from, Mathaba, and proceeded to use this as a pretext to trash Mathaba for a couple of pages. |
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Enrico Palazzo
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| What happened on the 9/11 thread is that I posted on page 46 an open letter from Charlie Sheen to President Obama which was published in hundreds of news outlets, mainstream as well as alternative. However, Joo happened to take exception to the one I happened to copy it from, Mathaba, and proceeded to use this as a pretext to trash Mathaba for a couple of pages. |
I am not sure what Mathaba is... And what if he doesn't like this Mathaba thing? What of it? I am not sure this answers my question. |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| The 'Martin Sheen questions 9-11 official story' thread was actually began in October 2007, so it pre-dates the conspiracy stickies. Its resurrection can't really be seen as a violation of the conspiracy theory sequester. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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sources are fair game.
There is no need to start a seperate thread just for a source.
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Al Mathaba
Anti-Imperialism Center (AIC)
Al Mathaba (meaning center) is the Libyan center for anti-imperialist propaganda which has funded third world guerilla groups. The Anti-Imperialism Center (AIC) - also known as Mathaba - is used by the Libyan Government to support terrorist networks and thus plays an important role in Qadhafi's terrorism strategy. Established in 1982 to support "liberation and revolutionary groups�, |
That site of course would never do any thing to misinform people , would they?
Sources are fair game. They would be in court.
It is fair to point out that Charlie Sheen is just an actor and not any sort of expert on something. Using him is no different than an actor appearing on an informercial. |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Enrico Palazzo wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| What happened on the 9/11 thread is that I posted on page 46 an open letter from Charlie Sheen to President Obama which was published in hundreds of news outlets, mainstream as well as alternative. However, Joo happened to take exception to the one I happened to copy it from, Mathaba, and proceeded to use this as a pretext to trash Mathaba for a couple of pages. |
I am not sure what Mathaba is... And what if he doesn't like this Mathaba thing? What of it? I am not sure this answers my question. |
Mathaba is an alternative news outlet that Joo, indeed, does not like. The point is that the fact that I happened to choose Mathaba to post it from is totally irrelevant to its substance.
The thread is about 9/11, not Mathaba, so I don't want to get in a debate about Mathaba when the exact same article is easily reposted from any one of hundreds of other, including mainstream, sources, which I have now done just to appease Joo.
Had Mathaba been the only source, then it might be debatable. But that such a press release from a major Hollywood star is somehow questionable because one of its outlets happened to be Mathaba is not only just plain silly, but more seriously it detracts from serious discussion of its content, which may well be what Joo intended. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| Enrico Palazzo wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| What happened on the 9/11 thread is that I posted on page 46 an open letter from Charlie Sheen to President Obama which was published in hundreds of news outlets, mainstream as well as alternative. However, Joo happened to take exception to the one I happened to copy it from, Mathaba, and proceeded to use this as a pretext to trash Mathaba for a couple of pages. |
I am not sure what Mathaba is... And what if he doesn't like this Mathaba thing? What of it? I am not sure this answers my question. |
Mathaba is an alternative news outlet that Joo, indeed, does not like. The point is that the fact that I happened to choose Mathaba to post it from is totally irrelevant to its substance.
The thread is about 9/11, not Mathaba, so I don't want to get in a debate about Mathaba when the exact same article is easily reposted from any one of hundreds of other, including mainstream, sources, which I have now done just to appease Joo.
Had Mathaba been the only source, then it might be debatable. But that such a press release from a major Hollywood star is somehow questionable because one of its outlets happened to be Mathaba is not only just plain silly, but more seriously it detracts from serious discussion of its content, which may well be what Joo intended. |
Well I guess no one has a right to know what Mathaba is about.
I guess if we follow what you want there ought to be a seperate thread for each source. and if there are 10 sources ?
That enemies and the perhaps even their intel services of the US are involved in 9-11 conspiracy theories is fair game.
What the conspiracy theorists want is to be able make as many accusations as they want without anyone questioning their sources. |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| Does the "play the post and not the poster" rule still apply? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:19 am Post subject: |
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| I would waive it if I could |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:30 am Post subject: |
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| I would waive it if I could |
OK, so here we have a pretty blatant admission that Joo is interested more in attacking posters and sources rather than ideas and assertions contained within posts.
I'll rephrase the question:
Mods, does the "play the post and not the poster" rule still apply? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:41 am Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| I would waive it if I could |
OK, so here we have a pretty blatant admission that Joo is interested more in attacking posters and sources rather than ideas and assertions contained within posts.
I'll rephrase the question:
Mods, does the "play the post and not the poster" rule still apply? |
No I wanted to give U permission to flame away.
Anyway telling people about Mathaba isn't flaming , just informing. |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:07 am Post subject: |
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There's more.
Just before he started his Mathaba spam, how about this:
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:11 am Post subject: |
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There's more.
Just before he started his Mathaba spam, how about this:
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It is an link from a blog from a newspaper that is more legit than Mathba I guess other opinions on 9-11 troofers are just not allowed.
And of course it is clear the Bcasper would just want to stop discussion on Mathaba. No one has a right to know about the sources.
9-11 troofers don't believe in freespeech just like they don't believe in democracy either as we know they want to overthrow the US government.
By the way Casper has in fact made a lot of use of Mathaba at least 3X
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=127485&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=600
and he also talks about his other sources which are in fact neo nazi
I kid you not
http://www.911missinglinks.com/
from Mike Deleny of Prothink
With stuff like that why ought there not be a discussion about the sources used?
plus of course you got all this stuff from BCaspers' buddy Trevor which never got the attention of the mods
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=127485&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=525 |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:47 am Post subject: Re: The JFK and 9/11 sticky pact is being violated or not? |
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| Enrico Palazzo wrote: |
| I would like to hear from posters as to what is happening on the 9/11 thread. Is there a person or are their persons violating the understanding that there wouldn't be multiple conspiracy threads and there would be stickies and people would be civil to the respective OPs or those who espousing those views. There is an allegation that Joo has been harassing Bacasper and Nowhereman as well. I would like to get some feedback as to what's going on. We don't want to favor one person over another. We just want to know if the understanding is being violated. That is not amusing, if that's the case. |
Joo has been harassing Nowhereman on the 9/11 thread? I thought they were on the same side on that one issue at least. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:38 am Post subject: |
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There's more.
Just before he started his Mathaba spam, how about this:
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It is an link from a blog from a newspaper that is more legit than Mathba I guess other opinions on 9-11 troofers are just not allowed.
And of course it is clear the Bcasper would just want to stop discussion on Mathaba. No one has a right to know about the sources.
9-11 troofers don't believe in freespeech just like they don't believe in democracy either as we know they want to overthrow the US government.
By the way Casper has in fact made a lot of use of Mathaba at least 3X
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=127485&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=600
and he also talks about his other sources which are in fact neo nazi
I kid you not
http://www.911missinglinks.com/
from Mike Deleny of Prothink
With stuff like that why ought there not be a discussion about the sources used?
plus of course you got all this stuff from BCaspers' buddy Trevor which never got the attention of the mods
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=127485&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=525 |
Joo keeps making unsubstantiated, irrelevant, and false allegations to deflect discussion of topics at hand.
There is nothing wrong with Mathaba as a news source. Sorry you don't like it, Joo. I don't rely on any single news source alone.
And I have no "buddies" here on Dave's.
Joo hurls terms like "conspiracy theorist," "neonazi," and "enemy" in order to avoid discussion of issues raised. |
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