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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP
Joined: 28 May 2009 Location: Electron cloud
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Stop analysing sh*t
It'll work out when it works out.
It's all about timing.
You being in 'the right place' (not geographically) and meeeting someone who is ready also at the same time.
Badaboombadabing.
fin.
It's also v difficult if one of you is staying in Korea and one of you is moving eventually. Or if you both plan to go home eventually but come from different countries and one doesn't have a strong desire to go expatriate to the other persons country.
I myself plan to move to Granada in Spain in a year or two and live meagerly off my savings in a one bed studio apt and work pt evenings for food money whilst in the day I pursue my own, let's call them artisitc projects...
I've given up on dating between now and landing in Spain (unless she wants just a casual affair) because lets face it - how many women (especially Korean) are going to be thrilled about the prospect of living in a European country where they themselves will find it hard to get a visa and then only earn min wage if they do (unless they are qualified proffessionally and speak Spanish) whilst living in a box with a guy who doesn't exactly have good long term financial prospects...?
So I've accepted that I won't be dating for probably the next two years. Luckilly, my 'projects' are what I care about most in life any way, so no biggie, once I came round to accpeting that, it's actually somewhat a relief to not be thinking about the opposite s*x so much.... |
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Panda

Joined: 25 Oct 2008
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:57 am Post subject: |
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I hope my post won't be laughed at...Cuz I used to bash others when they asked for help on their personal problems. But I then realized being a foreigner in a country, how often one's needs were ignored....not only by others, but mainly by ourselves.
I refused to be weak and believed I should only do better than what I did back home otherwise people would think I am a loser. Thus I got lots of problems unsolved and lots of pressure unrelieved inside of me.
I also felt quite ashamed whenever I was screwed up by a relationship, so I kept reminding myself : "Hey, your aim coming to Korea is neither dating nor getting married, having kids.....keep it simple and cool."
I really admire you, DWAEJIMORIGUBAP. I should have set longer plans and work on them straightforward just like what you are doing.
I have been told there are more better men outside Korea (I am not trying to be offensive to you guys here though). Hopefully, I could concentrate on my work and study and oneday swim out of this small Nodong-Gang river for the big Pacific Ocean.
Cheers, everybody.  |
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karoly
Joined: 01 Jun 2003
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Communication is the key; if there is no balance between the openness of partners, and in their social/philosophical ideologies, then just enjoy your time knowing that ultimately there will be no serious relationship. |
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djz
Joined: 17 Jul 2009
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:23 am Post subject: |
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Just a few questions because this thread is pretty confusing:
1) Are you an ESL teacher from the states?
2) You're Korean, right?
3) Are you living by yourself now or with your parents?
Thanks.
As for advice: don't mention babies until you've been dating a long time. |
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Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Location: Land of Morning Clam
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:26 am Post subject: |
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| Panda wrote: |
I have been told there are more better men outside Korea (I am not trying to be offensive to you guys here though). |
Ouch!  |
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giraffe
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:07 am Post subject: |
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| Draz wrote: |
| Panda wrote: |
I have been told there are more better men outside Korea (I am not trying to be offensive to you guys here though). |
Ouch!  |
Well Its true. I would have to agree with that statement. There are good men who go to korea to live/work but she would be picking from a relatively tiny pool of western men. Where are as Back in the US or Canada there would be millions i suppose. Chances of finding someone better would be onyour side =p. You could totally reverse this statement about western girls living and working in korea... Not much of a pool to pick from... |
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Panda

Joined: 25 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| djz wrote: |
Just a few questions because this thread is pretty confusing:
1) Are you an ESL teacher from the states?
2) You're Korean, right?
3) Are you living by yourself now or with your parents?
Thanks.
As for advice: don't mention babies until you've been dating a long time. |
No, I am not an ESL teacher and I am not Korean either, I live by myself, and support myself.
Yes, I agree the question about baby is as annoying as my Korean friends asking me if I ate already everytime we meet.
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Panda

Joined: 25 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| giraffe wrote: |
| Draz wrote: |
| Panda wrote: |
I have been told there are more better men outside Korea (I am not trying to be offensive to you guys here though). |
Ouch!  |
Well Its true. I would have to agree with that statement. There are good men who go to korea to live/work but she would be picking from a relatively tiny pool of western men. Where are as Back in the US or Canada there would be millions i suppose. Chances of finding someone better would be onyour side =p. You could totally reverse this statement about western girls living and working in korea... Not much of a pool to pick from... |
This has been discussed enough on Dave's I guess. Some of my friends ( always they are English teachers themselves) asked me not to date English teachers in Korea ( actually, I havent dated many teachers either.)
I always said: look, the US ambassador used to be an English teacher in Korea.
But I agree most foreigners in Korea (as well as in other countries) are either financially or psychologically insecure, its hard to make any serious decision.
Karoly, your just hit the nail on the head, but most men don't give much s*** to communication, even they know there are problems in the relationship, they would rather sit back and let small problems get bigger. They would compete with me to see who can stand more ridiculousness , always I lose and have to bring things up, I hate being the one who complains more.
And neither am I very patient a woman--this is my big problem, when I see things don't work, I could be cold-hearted and ask for break-up......later even they want to get back or talk again I would just say NO. |
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karoly
Joined: 01 Jun 2003
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| PARAMDUNGI wrote: |
| Expectations are dangerous. Enjoy the good times and stay in the moment. Start looking ahead and you take a big risk. |
I'd say that unrealistic expectations are dangerous (I'm splitting hairs). Academics (which I believe you are) tend to live in an idealized world, and by default, judge relationships accordingly. I believe this is where trust enters the equation.
If you trust someone to be truthful and open, then you act likewise. In a perfect world this works; in ours it's often necessary to shield those we care for from undue burdens, yet still find ways to reduce the problems inherent to the relationship.
I believe the problem arises when we become attached to those who believe love is a game. They see the burden resting solely on the other, as opposed to the couple. Thus you find many unbalanced or ambivalent couples.
As for the non-game players, this is where patience (as you have alluded to) becomes important. Patience to recognize the others needs while keeping in mind that your own life and well being are more important than that of the couples.
Last. If you're Asian, then I'd say this is a good place to find a partner. If they have been here for a while and are not a backpacker, then they are accustomed to the culture and would be able to adapt much more easily than you (perhaps) to an outside culture (in theory). |
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