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vincentmiser



Joined: 14 Jan 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:55 am    Post subject: State of the music industry Reply with quote

Folks, this stuff makes my heart bleed.

Smashing Pumpkins' latest offering will be FREE, absolutely. SCREW record companies.

http://www.mydigitallife.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1049409&Itemid=39

Respect
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morrisonhotel



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given the last album and Machina (and Machina 2), it'll be terrible.
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df1983



Joined: 15 Aug 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:58 am    Post subject: pumpkins Reply with quote

Bands don't really make that much off of music anymore... They make it from touring and merchandising. I think it is an awesome idea.

Machina was good if you can understand the concept behind the album... very complex. Machina II was just bad quality. Zeitgeist sucked.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought that, a few years back, Billy Corgan? said he'd quit because he couldn't come up with good material?
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Tycho Brahe



Joined: 15 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) it would be very very nice of corgan stopped making a mockery of the pumpkins name.


2) the record industry isn't over. look at the other records mentioned; over produced rubbish - i mean savage garden??

there is less money floating around yes, but economics runs in growth and recession spurts anybody owning a business who didn't notice that is a fool. The record industry is a prime example.

there is a great book about this called ''appetite for self-destruction''. t

The industry will most likely come full swing back to something more like the 50s where we have small independant labels and studios pumping their work into smaller scale releases or fewer bands and fueling themselves through the merit of their work - not the capital that they were able to fling at a product. The 90s and ridiculous excesses of the industry are well and truely over - and frankly thats not a bad thing. less utter cack by over produced bands who maybe have 2/3 worthwhile songs on a 12 song album whike making their money on the filler.

instead you have the money makers of the last couple of years who are willing to embrace the fact that the cd era is gone and make money from producing worthwhile peices of music (radiohead, animal collective, NIN) or through gigs and merchandising.

this is the new era for music. labels and studios need to stop moaning and evolve
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's nice to see more big names going around the record company's backs even if I stopped caring about the Smashing Pumpkins in the late nineties, power to em.
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AmericanExile



Joined: 04 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me it is a two part problem: lack of innovation, and lack of danger.

Where are the great trends that sweep through and change everything? When was the last time anything truly new happened? What was the last type of music to freak parents out? Rap. It's 30 years old.

Everything is too safe and a retread of what has gone before.
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ropebreezy



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AmericanExile wrote:

Everything is too safe and a retread of what has gone before.


May I suggest electronic music. It's been around since technically the 80's but it's starting to see mainstream success.
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AmericanExile



Joined: 04 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ropebreezy wrote:
AmericanExile wrote:

Everything is too safe and a retread of what has gone before.


May I suggest electronic music. It's been around since technically the 80's but it's starting to see mainstream success.


Safe and old. How does this push any boundaries?
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ropebreezy



Joined: 27 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AmericanExile wrote:
ropebreezy wrote:
AmericanExile wrote:

Everything is too safe and a retread of what has gone before.


May I suggest electronic music. It's been around since technically the 80's but it's starting to see mainstream success.


Safe and old. How does this push any boundaries?


I'm not really sure what consitutes "pushing the boundaries" for you. But there's plenty of subgenres in electronic music to find something wildly different from what you normally hear, I can guarantee it.
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