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I'll avoid flying if airlines do this....
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:28 pm    Post subject: I'll avoid flying if airlines do this.... Reply with quote

Think flying economy is bad now? New aircraft design puts passengers face-to-face in rows for budget travel

Air travel is being overhauled with a new aircraft design which plans to seat passengers facing each other in rows.

The controversial design is intended to save space and money and could see 50 per cent more passengers packed on to each plane.

Howard Guy, director of the UK company Design Q, acknowledges that some people will not be happy with the plan, but says they will be able to pay less for any inconvenience.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1215081/Packed-like-sardines-New-aircraft-design-plans-seat-passengers-face-face.html
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Budget travel though.. which means it's only for short distance. I would be OK with that if I am travelling for only an hour or so.
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Crockpot2001



Joined: 01 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like the seats are staggered (sp?) so that you are not entangled in another person's feet. Leg room looks far better with this setup. For short flights this could be good.
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AgentM



Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Location: British Columbia, Canada

PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tzechuk wrote:
Budget travel though.. which means it's only for short distance. I would be OK with that if I am travelling for only an hour or so.


Yeah, for short-haul flights it wouldn't be so bad. Especially if it made things cheaper.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't see it staying a "budget alternative" for ever.

I Do see this as possibly becoming the standard for ALL fights
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asams



Joined: 17 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so they're going to do away with the video screens in the back of headrests and instead for entertainment we get to watch the person next to us sleep? is there a boat that goes to America?
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThingsComeAround wrote:
Can't see it staying a "budget alternative" for ever.

I Do see this as possibly becoming the standard for ALL fights


The airlines quoted in the article are all budget airlines in the UK.

I cannot see major airlines lowering their standard just to try and get more net profits.

I personally will always fly with Cathay Pacific from now on even if they are a bit more expensive (and indeed I have tried this year - the only time I didn't fly them was because I booked too late and there were absolutely no seats left on the flights I needed) because of their inflight entertainment, which is a GOD SEND for my 4 yo.
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Goku



Joined: 10 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asams wrote:
so they're going to do away with the video screens in the back of headrests and instead for entertainment we get to watch the person next to us sleep? is there a boat that goes to America?


lmao.

It will take a few years for this to even become standard. Airlines still keep old models until they outlive their use. Although they will carry much more seat capacity there are still many flights that are barely even fully booked. So they still do have a use for older models of airliners.

I see this becoming a trend for very frequent travel paths such as between Hong Kong and Japan where there are frequent flights of relatively short distances. In addition, just as a generalization, Asian people aren't so much "bothered" by other people. Most of Asia (especially if they are travelers) are probably used to close quarter breathing conditions.

I actually think it's a great idea, but it's going to feel like being on a train.
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Slaps



Joined: 22 Jun 2007
Location: Sitting on top of the world

PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not half as bad an idea as this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/5753477/Ryanair-to-make-passengers-stand.html

Facing someone or standing? Hmm tough choice!

At least with facing each other, if you are travelling with your partner/child or are in a group it would be more social.
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riverboy



Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm.... Kind of reminds me of a picture I saw way back in highschool history class....

http://hitchcock.itc.virginia.edu/SlaveTrade/collection/large/E014.JPG
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grunden



Joined: 18 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

depends on who you are sitting across form,


if it is a group of old korean men and women, no go

if it is a group of hot chicks in mini skirts, viva la ride
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The KTX has certain seats in which you must face other passengers, and they're the least favorite.
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asams



Joined: 17 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slaps wrote:
It's not half as bad an idea as this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/5753477/Ryanair-to-make-passengers-stand.html

Facing someone or standing? Hmm tough choice!


That article said the passengers would be sitting on barstools. If those barstools are situated around a bar then I would definitely fly Ryanair
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oskinny1



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asams wrote:
so they're going to do away with the video screens in the back of headrests and instead for entertainment we get to watch the person next to us sleep? is there a boat that goes to America?


I took a freighter from Busan to Long Beach last March. Took 15 days and cost around $1500. Lots of leg room!
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

playing footsies in a can of sardines - a vacation from everyday life
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