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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 2:49 am Post subject: |
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Fat capitalists consume/waste a disproportionate amount of the worlds resouces. I believe the U.S is gobbles up around 37% of the global food, mineral, and raw material supply. And its all measured in wasteline.
Other countries would be doing the same if they could, so I guess I don't blame them really.
But it cannot go on forever. |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 12:52 pm Post subject: Survey names Detroit fattest city in U.S. |
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Survey names Detroit fattest city in U.S.
The Associated Press
Houston, judged the nation�s fattest for the past three years, is starting to look thinner � but only when it�s measured against Detroit.
Houston is now the second-fattest city among 25 compared by Men�s Fitness magazine in its February issue, due out this month.
The scales tipped Detroit�s way because of a jump in television viewing, a worsening commute time and a scarcity of gyms, the magazine said.
Fattest cities
1. Detroit
2. Houston
3. Dallas
4. San Antonio
5. Chicago
6. Fort Worth
7. Philadelphia
8. Arlington, Texas
9. Cleveland, Ohio
10. Columbus, Ohio
11. Atlanta
12. Mesa, Arizona
13. Oklahoma City
14. Kansas City
15. Miami
16. Las Vegas
17. Indianapolis
18. Phoenix
19. Tulsa, Oklahoma
20. Memphis, Tennessee
21. New York
22. New Orleans
23. Baltimore
24. El Paso, Texas
25. Washington
Source: The Associated Press
Houston officials were pleased, although the sixth annual survey made it clear their city still could stand to lose more than a few pounds.
�We were just ecstatic to not be the fattest city,� said Lee Labrada, a former Mr. Universe, who was named Houston�s first fitness czar in 2002.
The Detroit Health Department and mayor�s office did not immediately respond to calls seeking comment Friday.
Men�s Fitness uses 14 categories to determine the fattest cities, including the number of health clubs and sporting goods stores and the number of fast food and ice cream and doughnut shops per capita, air quality, climate, television viewing trends and availability of health care.
Texas had five of the 10 fattest cities, including Dallas, San Antonio, Fort Worth and Arlington. Others in the top 10 were Chicago, Philadelphia, Cleveland and Columbus.
On a separate list ranking the fittest locales, Honolulu was again No. 1. |
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willgreen
Joined: 30 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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I disagree with the whole low carbs theory.
I eat mostly rice and breads, and have never gained much weight.
List of food I rarely eat.
1. Soda
2. Cheese
3. Milk
4. Never Fast food
5. Deep fried food
That is not to say I never eat those foods. I sometime eat them. But basically they are out of my normal diet.
I eat a lot of rice bread, vegetables, fruit juice.
I eat only small portions of meat, and it is usually in the form of a soup. |
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nolin nae

Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Location: ���ֹ�
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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whether a carb is "complex" or "simple" has no real meaning once it is metabolized. nowadays the glycemic index is used to gauge what affect a given food might have on your body's release of insulin (i.e. glycemic response).
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One of the latest installments of the famed Harvard Nurses Study (conducted since 1976) confirms the importance of the glycemic index. Researchers tracked the dietary habits and the health of 75,521 nurses for 10 years. The research team discovered that the consumption of carbohydrates with a high glycemic index was strongly associated with an increased risk of heart disease. They also discovered, although the data was not as strong, that "total carbohydrate intake, representing the replacement of fat with carbohydrate, appeared to be positively related to CHD [coronary heart disease] risk."
The Harvard researchers concluded that eating foods high on the glycemic index leads to elevated blood-sugar and insulin levels, which in turn leads to hypertension, undesirable cholesterol and triglyceride levels and other risk factors for heart disease. Since this is the largest long-term epidemiological study being conducted in America, these conclusions will not go unnoted in the scientific community1.
This is a good time to disabuse you of the long-held notion that there was some enormous difference between so-called "simple" and "complex" carbohydrates. That theory held that simple carbs such as sugar and white flour sent glucose rushing into your bloodstream faster than complex carbs such as fruits, potatoes and whole grains. But the Nurses Health Study doctors and other researchers found that two foods that contribute most to elevating blood sugar to an excessive level (called the "glycemic load") are baked potatoes and cold breakfast cereals. These foods were traditionally classified as complex, as opposed to simple, carbohydrates. However, they behaved just as simple carbohydrates do. So the glycemic index appears to be a better gauge of the impact of various carbohydrates on your blood sugar. As research continues to associate high-glucose load with increased risk of heart disease, we need to pay closer attention not only to the amount of carbohydrates consumed, but also to their position on the glycemic index.
Choosing your carbohydrate foods from the lower end of the glycemic index is fundamental common sense and, for a person following the Atkins Nutritional Approach�, an important building block for permanent weight loss. In addition to being helpful for weight loss, the glycemic index has enormous potential as a tool for minimizing the risk factors associated with certain diseases. As the message spreads that hyperinsulinism is a factor in certain illnesses and disease, the glycemic index becomes an ever more important tool for selecting foods.
At Dr. Atkins' medical practice, physicians regularly saw patients with symptoms of unstable blood sugar, or hypoglycemia. Time and time again this condition dramatically clears up when they follow an eating approach that induces a lower glycemic response. Also, doctors who specialize in diabetes are learning not only how important it is to control their patients' intake of carbohydrates, but how the glycemic index can help their patients do that intelligently.
Interestingly, it has also been shown that reducing your glycemic load appears to diminish your risk of developing colorectal cancer2. One likely reason is that cancer cells feed off sugar. Another possibility is that sugar may compromise the integrity of the intestinal tract. Moreover, hyperinsulinism, in response to a high glycemic load, may increase the risk of cancer. Also, recent studies on women who have had breast cancer have shown that women with lower insulin production have a better survival rate and a decreased incidence of recurrence than women with higher insulin levels3-4.
Two other recent studies have shown that hyperinsulinism has also been associated with a higher risk for polycystic ovary syndrome5-6. It all goes back to lesson No. 1 in eating for health: Avoid glycemic load. Don't cause your metabolism to struggle incessantly with high insulin levels, weight gain and looming cardiovascular and other health problems. |
http://atkins.com/Archive/2001/12/15-589297.html
willgreen wrote: |
I disagree with the whole low carbs theory.
I eat mostly rice and breads, and have never gained much weight.
List of food I rarely eat.
1. Soda
2. Cheese
3. Milk
4. Never Fast food
5. Deep fried food
That is not to say I never eat those foods. I sometime eat them. But basically they are out of my normal diet.
I eat a lot of rice bread, vegetables, fruit juice.
I eat only small portions of meat, and it is usually in the form of a soup. |
first, you shouldn't diagree with scientifically-substantiated research and human-tested results simply because your experience isn't congruent with low-carb precepts. millions of people would whole-heartedly disagree with you.
second, how old are you? when i was younger (through my twenties) i could eat whatever i wanted, without really exercising, and i didn't gain an ounce. if you continue this diet into your thirties i can almost guarantee you'll start to suffer from either diabetes or diabetes-related disorders: obesity, hypoglycemia, mood swings, heart disease, lack of energy, hunger, hyperinsulinism among others. often people say, "your metabolism changes when you get older". well, this is not a natural fact... it changes because you abused your body with carbs for so long that you've made yourself into a fat-storing machine.
third, how much, in terms of calories, do you eat each day and how active are you? this will have an affect on how much weight you gain or lose regardless of what you eat.
by the way, "fast food" does not tell me what kind of food you're not eating. "fast food" has carbs, fats and protein, just like any other food. becasue it's "fast" does not necessarily make it bad.
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:16 am Post subject: |
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It is all a bit depressing. Over half are overwieght, many obese. Strange as kids most of us are usually so active, lots of energy, burning it up in sports and running around. Now PE seems scarcer in schools. If Koreans ate all the crap westerners do they'd be fatter for sure, seeing the kids hang out in hagwons and don't seem to exercise as much as they would without all the hagwon classes. I don't eat too much crap but am still overweight. Metabolism got slower perhaps, and I don't exercise much other than a bit of walking. Lazy I guess. Personally I tend to feel too self-conscious in Korea too, to go into a "health club" or wherever, and don't really know enough people to play sports with. Not very motivated to exercise on my own. Some hike or whatever. |
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J.B. Clamence

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Have you ever been to Detroit? If you had to live there, you'd be sitting on your couch depressed as hell stuffing your face with pizza and candy bars, too. |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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J.B. Clamence wrote: |
Have you ever been to Detroit? If you had to live there, you'd be sitting on your couch depressed as hell stuffing your face with pizza and candy bars, too. |
I'd say Detroit is not only the fattest city, but the worst city in the US PERIOD! |
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