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[jaykimf]

[mises]

http://strangemaps.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/map-owns_the_west.jpg

Lots of trees to cut and mines to dig in all that.

Really, if manufacturing is now a Chinese thing then just do as us Canucks and dig up the country. It works well for us.

[jaykimf]

[mises]

Sell, lease, give. Whatever. Trees are nice to look at. They'll all look nice being burned for heat if some new sources of income aren't found pronto. But yes, I know. Nothing is wrong, the market is recovering etc. Agree to disagree.

[Reggie]

I'm sort of neutral on whether or not to sell the land. The main reason I'm not sold on the idea is because it's just a short-term solution that won't even matter unless we stop wasting so much money. When a junkie runs out of items to pawn, then what?

Selling some things isn't a bad idea, but what we really need to do but won't do is cut spending. Take a look at this pie chart:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fy2009spendingbycategory2.png

There's a lot of room in that budget to make huge cuts.

The Department of Agriculture needs to be abolished. I'm a farmer and sure as Hell don't need them. They're just a waste of my time and money.

1.25% of our budget goes to the Department of the Treasury. We're wasting that much of our treasury on our treasury? That's so silly.

The Department of Defense/War on Terror is nearly 22% of our budget. What is our war budget, something like a half a trillion dollars or more? Yet we're losing to a militia whose 2009 annual budget consists solely of proceeds from the sale of goat cheese? It just goes to show that throwing endless wads of tax money and money borrowed from China at a problem doesn't solve it, just like with education. All of that money we've spent all of these years on education and the Canadians are still pissed off that we don't even know the name of their leader.

Over half our entire budget goes to Social Security, Welfare, Medicare, and Medicaid. That, in and of itself, is a pathetic commentary.

EPA + National Science Foundation + Department of Homeland Security + the other lame agencies on the pie chart = boobs on a boar.

We can sell our parks. We can pray about our budget problems. We can sit in a circle and sing Kum Ba Yah. But none of our financial problems will go away until we cut spending.

[caniff]

^ Why'd you get a new handle?

[Dude Ranch]

[Kuros]

[Pluto]

Also, should the land be sold, it may bring in even more revenues for the government beyond the initial sale. The productivity from such sold land will present a new tax base. Thereby making the sold land an asset as opposed to an expense or a liability for the government.

I don't think anyone favors dumping the land onto the market. It's best that the government sell any land currently not being put to the best use piecemeal.

[Fox]

Try to stimulate the economy by hiring people to create and maintain national parks, and you end up with a wonderful product that many people -- myself included -- enjoy even today. Hand over billions to the banks instead, and you solve nothing.

I know lots of people aren't a big fan of FDR and his policies, but I for one like our national parks, and I want them to remain our national parks. We have something beautiful, and pissing it away by selling that land off is totally unacceptable. Yeah, maybe selling them off so private enterprise could change them into a Walmart would be more profitable financially, but all that goes to show is the more profitable thing isn't always the best thing to do.

We can solve the financial problems we're facing without giving up our national parks.

[Kuros]

[mises]

[Pluto]

From Cato:

[Reggie]

[Kuros]