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NightSky



Joined: 19 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:23 pm    Post subject: when friends want you to tutor them Reply with quote

how do you handle the situation of casual adult acquaintances wanting lessons?

I feel bad to charge someone who's been kind to me, but OTOH I value my free time and this person's level is really low so it's not as if we would be just chatting. It would be work on my part. I am charging much less than the going rate but I still feel kinda guilty. In a perfect world I would meet this person and just take coffee or whatever they offered me for it, but the cost of living is rising and I need to save.

thoughts?
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let them buy you dinner or dessert and a coffee. A less guilt free way to help out. Depends what kind of lessons and how close you are. Intensive textbook with a listening component? No way. Normal conversation with an explanation sketch/example set could be worth a bowl of pasta or galbi. Man's gotta eat right?
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP



Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: Electron cloud

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or get them to teach you Korean in exchange...?

If you totally don't wan to do it a ttactful way could be too say

'Oh, I'm really sorry, but I teach English for ____ hours everyday and by the time I leave school, it's the last thing I want to do in my spare time.'

That was my Interior decorator Father's excuse to Mother for not decorating the house when it got shabby. It seemed to work okay with her. Bear in mind she was noticably less genourous with crumpets and scones on a sunday evening for a week or two after. (No, she wasn't really. Ive just got VD verbal dior... today)
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Countrygirl



Joined: 19 Nov 2007
Location: in the classroom

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Solution -- Don't feel guilty.

I also have a friend who gives me wine and monetary gifts whenever she asks me to help her. She is such a great person and I would help her without question with anything. I'm not in a position to say no to some of her gifts and I also feel like I might hurt her feelings if I reject what she offers me.

My solution...do the best job I can and sometimes pay for dinner etc. I figure in the end it will balance out.
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Friends don't let friends toutor friends.....you won't remain friends.
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NightSky



Joined: 19 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

with most eager prospective students I do in fact use the "I'm sorry, but I value my free time too much" excuse. It's just that the person seems to genuinely want to learn English (not just for bragging rights or prestige) and I don't need a Korean tutor, I could use the cash though.

I'm just not one of those whiteys who can charge 50 thousand per hour without blinking an eye and patting myself on the back for having such an easy job. especially if the family/person in question is not making Kim Yeon-A kind of money.
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mongolian spot



Joined: 15 Sep 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wont do this. period. im sat in the gym the other day and this drone head korean started asking me if i wanted to help him with his english for free!, so i asked him if he wanted to show me how to design cell phones for LG. Cheeky idiots. just give em the middle finger and stroll on, there is some english the paul mcartney heads understand.
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP



Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: Electron cloud

PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NightSky wrote:
with most eager prospective students I do in fact use the "I'm sorry, but I value my free time too much" excuse. It's just that the person seems to genuinely want to learn English (not just for bragging rights or prestige) and I don't need a Korean tutor, I could use the cash though.

I'm just not one of those whiteys who can charge 50 thousand per hour without blinking an eye and patting myself on the back for having such an easy job. especially if the family/person in question is not making Kim Yeon-A kind of money.


Yeah I always feel bad charging over 30,000 if they're just regular working people and not doctors or execs...

Why not just charge her like 20,000 - 30,000 and coffee??

I'm looking for Spanish lessons and I'd hapilly pay up to 35,000 an hour and I'm not flush with cash....
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smoggy



Joined: 31 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The way I handled it with one friend who speaks fluently is to help her improve on her writing and speaking and she teaches me a dozen of chosen Korean words. I just want some survival language. It has been working well for me.
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Goon-Yang



Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: Duh

PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just don't do it. Tell him you won't. Teachers are teachers. Friends are friends. Your teacher should never be your friend. Just cause.

Unless you're banging your teacher the above is always correct.
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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goon-Yang wrote:
Just don't do it. Tell him you won't. Teachers are teachers. Friends are friends. Your teacher should never be your friend. Just cause.

Unless you're banging your teacher the above is always correct.


I agree. I'm moving towards this direction now. I'm strung out too far. It's nice to get free lunch, dinner, and the chance to teach someone that wants to learn.

But, they smother the hell out of you. Dropping in whenever its convenient for them, not you. It's very tiring.
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I'm no Picasso



Joined: 28 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion, it's just like dating in reverse:

You can start out as friends and move to dating. Going the opposite direction is not so easy.

You can start out as tutor/student and move to friendship. Going the opposite direction is not so easy.
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MattAwesome



Joined: 30 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

solution: get someone else to tutor them right.

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anbrainblasta



Joined: 14 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my contract says its illegal for me to do private lessons. that one has gotten me out of a corner or two since being here
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longlivetheclash



Joined: 08 Aug 2009
Location: Bundang/Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:51 am    Post subject: Spanish lessons Reply with quote

"I'm looking for Spanish lessons and I'd hapilly pay up to 35,000 an hour and I'm not flush with cash...."

We will be back in Korea in late October 2009. I am an English teacher and my wife will be looking to tutor Spanish (she is Peruvian). E-mail me at [email protected]

Thanks,
longlivetheclash
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