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adjosshi with a listening disability

 
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darkcity



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: SF, CA

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:51 am    Post subject: adjosshi with a listening disability Reply with quote

OK i did a search on some listening disability topics, but i think all of them dealt with kids.

I teach one on one. One of my students is an older man, a minister.

He's a nice guy, studies very hard, but it's clear that he is making absolutely no progress with his listening. Specifically, he has problems comprehending and differentiating the sounds when a full sentence is spoken normally, with the sound shifts and transitions from word to word (sorry, i don't know the linguistic term for this).

if I say the word individually, he may be able to understand, and he can nod and smile his way through a conversation. but it's clear that I'm not getting through to him.

quite frankly, i don't have the balls to tell him that he may very well have a learning disability. so i have to deal with him for the next few months. anyone have good references or links where he can practice his listening?

he's willing to put in the time but has yet to find a method that works.

thanks in advance.
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mongolian spot



Joined: 15 Sep 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just dont care!

I have a guy in one of my adult classes and hes just shit. Everything he says is painful. I think he has a mental problem but i just carry on as normal and ignore it. Sometimes i play jokes on him.

Korean culture promotes this so use it, do nothing, say nothing and get paid. Everyone is happy.
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a co-teacher with the exact same issue. Go figure.
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darkcity



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: SF, CA

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mongolian spot wrote:
just dont care!

I have a guy in one of my adult classes and hes just shit. Everything he says is painful. I think he has a mental problem but i just carry on as normal and ignore it. Sometimes i play jokes on him.

Korean culture promotes this so use it, do nothing, say nothing and get paid. Everyone is happy.


as I said, in his case, he's determined to improve and is practically begging me for some answer as to why his ears can't comprehend what is being said.

if the student just goes about his day after class, then I'm generally pretty detached. but this guy is bitter about denied overseas opportunities due to his weakness and has tried and tried and is now looking to his teacher (me) to help out.

funny/cynical Dave's responses aside, anyone have anything to give me?
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Listening and speaking are connected.

Go through this programme with him, get him set up with how to go through it and have some sentences or a short passage that he has to come back to you with and recite. Then give him a short recording and get him to transcribe it. Those would be my first steps for his self guided study.

http://www.uiowa.edu/~acadtech/phonetics/english/frameset.html
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NightSky



Joined: 19 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

difficult. I have an adult who is really keen on improving his pronunciation in particular, but though he can repeat fine, when he speaks of his own accord he attaches random "s"s to everything. like he'll actually say, "hellos, I'm sorrys, I can't attend class todays".

I also had a younger learner (fourth grade) with a hearing disability. I wondered why his speaking and general attention-paying skills were so bad. Nobody (not him, not his parents) thought to tell me about his disability until I'd had him forever. Rolling Eyes
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NightSky wrote:
difficult. I have an adult who is really keen on improving his pronunciation in particular, but though he can repeat fine, when he speaks of his own accord he attaches random "s"s to everything. like he'll actually say, "hellos, I'm sorrys, I can't attend class todays".

I also had a younger learner (fourth grade) with a hearing disability. I wondered why his speaking and general attention-paying skills were so bad. Nobody (not him, not his parents) thought to tell me about his disability until I'd had him forever. Rolling Eyes


Tell me about it. I've had deaf students in public school classes and no-one thought to tell me. One had an attachment from his ear "plugged" into his head and when I mentioned it to the KTs their response was don't bother with them (ie don't give them seperate work as this will embarrass them. More like embarrass the KT, not the student)
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darkcity



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: SF, CA

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:
Listening and speaking are connected.

Go through this programme with him, get him set up with how to go through it and have some sentences or a short passage that he has to come back to you with and recite. Then give him a short recording and get him to transcribe it. Those would be my first steps for his self guided study.

http://www.uiowa.edu/~acadtech/phonetics/english/frameset.html


That's a great little program. I'm not sure how much it'll help his listening, but thanks for the tip. I'll try it out next week.
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smoggy



Joined: 31 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The way I teach has worked for me in learning Fr., It. and Ger. I read something, write it have it corrected and then speak about it. Organizing the thoughts could work for him. For him, start having him write basic sentences and then discuss them. It is worth a try.
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

darkcity wrote:
halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:
Listening and speaking are connected.

Go through this programme with him, get him set up with how to go through it and have some sentences or a short passage that he has to come back to you with and recite. Then give him a short recording and get him to transcribe it. Those would be my first steps for his self guided study.

http://www.uiowa.edu/~acadtech/phonetics/english/frameset.html


That's a great little program. I'm not sure how much it'll help his listening, but thanks for the tip. I'll try it out next week.


Cool. Worth a go.

There's also:

http://forvo.com/

That site is a lot more problematic though, as the people speaking are just any-old.
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