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.38 Special
Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania
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 Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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American accent?
American accents run a gamut similar in disparity to the UK. Some Americans can hardly understand other Americans.
Certainly there is a general American accent. The only reason I bring it up is because not every American accent is considered attractive. Mine is a fine example of that.
Not to mention idioms. You don't know how many people get a chuckle when I say, "This room needs cleaned," or "The oil needs changed." Sounds totally natural to me.
And I'm from Pennsylvania. We aren't exactly known for our peculiar speech, except for the Mennonites, Amish, and the Pennsylvania Dutch. But they mostly speak German/jibberish (for the Pennsylvania Dutch). (FYI, Pennsylvania Dutch isn't so much a cultural phenomenon as it is a speech impediment!) Generally, Pennsylvanian's from my neck of the woods combine New England pronunciation with lazy, southern drawl. And by drawl I mean we can't be bothered to enunciate. You can tell when two Pennsylvanian's are having a conversation when every other phrase heard is "Eh? What'd you say?" or "What was that?" I'm very guilty of this.
On the other hand, Irish and Scottish accents are unbelievably attractive. Perhaps that is my blood calling out to its heritage. 
And lady folks... don't disparage the poor Western men! Not everyone's got that "yellow fever."  |
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Reise-ohne-Ende
Joined: 07 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Not to mention idioms. You don't know how many people get a chuckle when I say, "This room needs cleaned," or "The oil needs changed." |
To be a linguistics nerd: This isn't actually an example of idiomatic expression, just a different form of verb conjugation. I first encountered it when I met my roommate. I was very excited; she seemed a bit concerned by my enthusiasm. 
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| But they mostly speak German/jibberish (for the Pennsylvania Dutch). (FYI, Pennsylvania Dutch isn't so much a cultural phenomenon as it is a speech impediment!) |
I will let this slide as I assume you are being facetious. 
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| ...lazy, southern drawl. And by drawl I mean we can't be bothered to enunciate. |
 'drawl' is a dirty word in linguistics. You might find if you looked at data that you guys don't have any more misunderstandings than the average person; all dialects serve to communicate, and if they didn't, they would cease to exist.
That said: *hugs!!* I'm really not this picky about everything. It's just my linguistics training!! It's like sending someone into the military and then expecting them not to duck when they hear a car backfire...almost impossible! |
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.38 Special
Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania
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| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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I'll see your linguistics nerddom and raise you redneck gun nerddom: A car backfiring sounds very different than a gun shot as the absence of a projectile prevents sonic compression (sonic boom). The difference is similar between a firecracker and a mortar on Independence Day. Firecrackers, well, crack, while a mortar will crack then boom.
A great example of this is long range rifle shooting: In a long range match, score keepers will sit in a pit below the target. The rifle report is almost inaudible, but the boom cracks right over their head. Very unpleasant.
So there. Nerddom reciprocated. Hug is not. I'm cheap.
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| I will let this slide as I assume you are being facetious. |
Kinda sorta. Pennsylvania Dutch is a sort of Creole, yes, but it is also colloquially used to describe someone who speaks too fast and garbles their words. A great many times, as a child, I'd jibber at someone older and they'd just laugh at me and say, "Yer Dutch!"
No doubt this is related to the amount of Amish in the area (we are quite well known for it). |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Storysinger pointed this thread out to me, and I had to drag myself back to Dave's to answer it.
If you are a Western woman in Korea and you want to date, you will be able to. You are, after all, a woman.
If you are a Western woman in Korea and you want to get laid, you will be able to. You are, after all, a woman.
If you are a Western woman in Korea only looking to have a boyfriend to practice Korean and hang out with, watch out, because you might end up with a husband. 
Now, to add my own stereotype--one that Korean women taught me--the worst sons make the best husbands.
Edit: Because "out" and "you" are different words.
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Waaagh marriage talk! Out! Out!
So I take it you married the Korean bf during your absence from the board, Atavistic? |
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Reise-ohne-Ende
Joined: 07 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Well, fine, .38 Special, I accede to your wisdom, but my analogy still holds. Just insert something in there that makes it true. 
Um and I rescind my hug in that case, jerk face.
Atavistic...Korean husband? Yes please. OMG I'm such a '50s teenager. "Someday my prince will come..."
I make myself sick.
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| Now, to add my own stereotype--one that Korean women taught me--the worst sons make the best husbands. |
Hmmm...why do you say that? I've always been taught the adage that, to see how a guy will treat you in a relationship, look at how he treats his mother.
That said, I definitely believe that the worst sons are often the best lovers ~_^ |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Now, to add my own stereotype--one that Korean women taught me--the worst sons make the best husbands. |
Hmmm...why do you say that? I've always been taught the adage that, to see how a guy will treat you in a relationship, look at how he treats his mother.
That said, I definitely believe that the worst sons are often the best lovers ~_^ |
Ask some Korean women how their mother-in-laws treat them and how their husbands respond. You'll understand.
Part of a Korean pyebaek (part we didn't do because nobody wanted it) is for the groom to give his wife AND his mother a piggyback ride to show his loyalties and obligations to both of them. Another, very traditional, not-done-too-much now part is for the bride to give the mother- and sisters-in-law yeot (엿, a kind of taffy-like candy) to seal their mouths so they are kind to her in the household. And traditionally the female goose of the wooden wedding geese given to the couple has a ribbon tied around her beak--telling the wife to keep her mouth shut in her new house. The Korean word for a woman to get married is 시집가다, which means "going to the husband's home."
I'll let you draw your own conclusions about why the worst sons make the best husbands.
I should mention--my mother-in-law and I get along very well. The third meeting she said something somewhat rude to me in Korean. I sassed back. She liked it. Thought I was funny. Since then, no problems. My Korean coworkers were horrified that I'd sassed back, though. (Mother bought us wedding geese where they both had tied beaks.  )
And with that, I'm off Dave's. If anyone has anymore questions they actually want answered, they can PM me and I'll get the notification.
Good luck in Korea. |
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Carla
Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Storysinger pointed this thread out to me, and I had to drag myself back to Dave's to answer it.
If you are a Western woman in Korea and you want to date, you will be able to. You are, after all, a woman.
If you are a Western woman in Korea and you want to get laid, you will be able to. You are, after all, a woman.
If you are a Western woman in Korea only looking to have a boyfriend to practice Korean and hang out with, watch you, because you might end up with a husband.
Now, to add my own stereotype--one that Korean women taught me--the worst sons make the best husbands. |
I think these things sum up the question nicely. LOL. Seriously, I have never known any girl who couldn't get a date/laid/boyfriend if she wanted one. I'm not saying there aren't some who don't, but that I have never known any.
Now, I have known girls who complain about not being able to date after a 2~3 week dry spell, but that doesn't mean they can't get a date, that just means they haven't had a date this week. LOL |
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mimis
Joined: 24 May 2009
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do
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| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:56 am Post subject: |
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| Reise-ohne-Ende wrote: |
Hmmm...why do you say that? I've always been taught the adage that, to see how a guy will treat you in a relationship, look at how he treats his mother.
That said, I definitely believe that the worst sons are often the best lovers ~_^ |
That said, the way a son treats his mother doesn't always reflect that. If a mum was to treat their child like crap all through their life, I wouldn't have any problem with a child being off with their mother.
Edit to add: I have an excellent relationship with my mum (before anyone thinks otherwise). |
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Reise-ohne-Ende
Joined: 07 Sep 2009
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That said, the way a son treats his mother doesn't always reflect that. If a mum was to treat their child like crap all through their life, I wouldn't have any problem with a child being off with their mother.
Edit to add: I have an excellent relationship with my mum (before anyone thinks otherwise). |
I see your point, but I still think it's valid argument. If a guy I was dating had very big problems with his mother, I would prefer that he cut her out of his life as much as possible. I would not be able to sit through fights or terribly awkward, uncomfortable family dinners. If something did need to be talked about (like funeral arrangements for the father, for example), I'd want it to be as brief and cordial as possible. That's just how I am, though, a cut-your-losses kind of person.
And I think it carries over...if I had a huge, messy, awful break-up, I would prefer the guy to make a clean break and move on with his life, not hang around yelling at me or something.
Atavistic, I understand what you mean now. You definitely want a husband that puts you before his mother. At the same time, it still goes with my advice too; I want a husband who listens respectfully to his mother, listens respectfully to me, and makes his own decisions with respect to who they actually affect. |
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do
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| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:23 am Post subject: |
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| Reise-ohne-Ende wrote: |
I see your point, but I still think it's valid argument. If a guy I was dating had very big problems with his mother, I would prefer that he cut her out of his life as much as possible. I would not be able to sit through fights or terribly awkward, uncomfortable family dinners. If something did need to be talked about (like funeral arrangements for the father, for example), I'd want it to be as brief and cordial as possible. That's just how I am, though, a cut-your-losses kind of person. |
Hmm, possibly, but having some familial experience of such things, I know it's more complicated than that. |
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Reise-ohne-Ende
Joined: 07 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:39 am Post subject: |
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| Hmm, possibly, but having some familial experience of such things, I know it's more complicated than that. |
:-/ /-:
Depends on the kind of person you are. The way I am, I either have a good relationship with someone, a business relationship with them, or no relationship at all.
Shades of gray? What shades of gray? |
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do
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| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:02 am Post subject: |
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fromtheuk
Joined: 31 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:23 am Post subject: |
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| Don't worry OP. I'll marry you. I'm on welfare right now (how impressive). |
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