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57 year old man rapes 7-8 year old girl and only gets 12 yrs
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flakfizer



Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's in the Herald today:

http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/NEWKHSITE/data/html_dir/2009/10/01/200910010061.asp

The guy had a record of 17 previous crimes. Shocked
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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blackjack wrote:
Nothing is going to change what has happened to her.


There are many good arguments against the death penalty, and I respect them. But to imply that those who do support it may actually believe it would "change what has happened to her" --- is insulting.




Which one of these options will result in undoing the damage done to that poor girl?

a) do nothing to him
b) slap on the wrist
c) twelve year sentence
d) execution

Given that that nothing on the list of options about what to do with this human garbage will "change what has happened to her", I say why not kill him and be done with it?

I choose d).
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Savant



Joined: 25 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flakfizer wrote:
It's in the Herald today:

http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/NEWKHSITE/data/html_dir/2009/10/01/200910010061.asp

The guy had a record of 17 previous crimes. Shocked


Can anyone shed some more light on this?

Was he convicted of committing 17 crimes? Were they all sexual offences?
Yet, he only served 3 years in Prison for [one?] rape count?

This crime has provoked a national furore and a demand for tougher sentencing for sex crimes. However,for how many appalling sex crimes does this country need to happen before it reacts to a situation and demand change?
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leslie Cheswyck wrote:
blackjack wrote:
Nothing is going to change what has happened to her.


There are many good arguments against the death penalty, and I respect them. But to imply that those who do support it may actually believe it would "change what has happened to her" --- is insulting.




Which one of these options will result in undoing the damage done to that poor girl?

a) do nothing to him
b) slap on the wrist
c) twelve year sentence
d) execution

Given that that nothing on the list of options about what to do with this human garbage will "change what has happened to her", I say why not kill him and be done with it?

I choose d).


I'm not against the death penalty. I'm against death as a punishment. The death penalty should be used in the same way as dangerous animals are put down. Lots of people are wired wrong but some can't control themselves.

I'm against people that think that causing the guy pain is going to change anything
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bish



Joined: 09 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blackjack wrote:
Leslie Cheswyck wrote:
blackjack wrote:
Nothing is going to change what has happened to her.


There are many good arguments against the death penalty, and I respect them. But to imply that those who do support it may actually believe it would "change what has happened to her" --- is insulting.




Which one of these options will result in undoing the damage done to that poor girl?

a) do nothing to him
b) slap on the wrist
c) twelve year sentence
d) execution

Given that that nothing on the list of options about what to do with this human garbage will "change what has happened to her", I say why not kill him and be done with it?

I choose d).


I'm not against the death penalty. I'm against death as a punishment. The death penalty should be used in the same way as dangerous animals are put down. Lots of people are wired wrong but some can't control themselves.

I'm against people that think that causing the guy pain is going to change anything



Causing him pain is going to make him regret what he did more and more every time he feels it. It's well worth it. I hope he has a really nasty time of it before he dies.
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falco



Joined: 26 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bish wrote...
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Causing him pain is going to make him regret what he did more and more every time he feels it. It's well worth it. I hope he has a really nasty time of it before he dies."


Exactly! This piece of sh#t should be sentenced to do time in prison
where the inmates havn't seen women for years. Not protective
custody either, in amongst the general prison inmates. After a few
weeks or months he would certainly have some idea of the kind of
pain and torment he inflicted on the poor little girl.

- falco.
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bubba and friends would "visit" this goon in his cell and have a sex party....but in korea....i think most of the inmates will leave him alone.....what is really irking me is the judge....claiming that the guy was drunk and not responsible for his actions! And hench, a reduced sentence!
That judge needs to have Bubba and FOB's visit him for a party.
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not completely the judge's fault. His hands were somewhat tied by statute.

http://koreabeat.com/?p=10759
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kabrams



Joined: 15 Mar 2008
Location: your Dad's house

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hater Depot wrote:
It's not completely the judge's fault. His hands were somewhat tied by statute.

http://koreabeat.com/?p=10759


I...

So his sentence was reduced because he was drunk?
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proustme



Joined: 13 Jun 2009
Location: Nowon-gu

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's unbelievable, I know, but it's true.

After being notified, police arrested the man. Although prosecutors sought a life sentence, the Ansan branch of the Suwon District Court sentenced him to 12 years. After that, he must wear an electronic anklet for seven years. The court said it took into consideration that Cho was drunk, and thus was �weaker mentally and physically.� Under the Korean law, when an intoxicated person commits a crime, the court can reduce a sentence.

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2910833
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falco



Joined: 26 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So his sentence was reduced because he was drunk?


As insane as that might appear.....unfortunately the answer is yes.

- falco.
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Savant



Joined: 25 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

proustme wrote:
It's unbelievable, I know, but it's true.

After being notified, police arrested the man. Although prosecutors sought a life sentence, the Ansan branch of the Suwon District Court sentenced him to 12 years. After that, he must wear an electronic anklet for seven years. The court said it took into consideration that Cho was drunk, and thus was �weaker mentally and physically.� Under the Korean law, when an intoxicated person commits a crime, the court can reduce a sentence.

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2910833


I can't help but ponder the question: Would a drunk non-Korean get the same sentence as a drunk Korean for the same crime?
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calicoe



Joined: 23 Dec 2008
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no words for what that poor little girl endured, and will endure for the rest of her life. What he did to her is horrific. They treat innocent dogs a lot worse than what should happen to the beast who did this.
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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife has given me more details, as apparently it's all over the news big time now. They are not pleasant details. The man was not a Christian pastor. He talked the little girl into going to church with him, and then dragged her into a bathroom in an office building which had a floor rented out to a church group, when nobody was there. There's a special plane of hell waiting for this guy. The girl has serious physical damage but recovered consciousness an hour later and told the police, who identified the rapist from a surveillance video.

It's partly that we are so repulsed by this sickening act that we want to make the rapist suffer. Which he deserves richly; our culture made a mistake in abolishing the lash. But there is also an intent in punishment to dissuade others from contemplating such acts or from taking them lightly. Seeing this man on a public stand being flogged would probably be more of a disincentive to others than a prison sentence alone.

I agree that this poppycock of 'I was drunk at the time' is a ridiculous excuse which is simply a loophole to lighten the sentence of those with clout. I can see a distinction between a planned murder and an impulsive homicide as an act of passion. But this was a calculated act carried out by someone with multiple previous convictions. If it were a foreigner, there would be swift laws passed to prevent us teaching children and a large number of us would not be going out at night for a good while. We're always assumed to be on drugs; would 'I was high at the time' help any?
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blackjack wrote:
Leslie Cheswyck wrote:
blackjack wrote:
Nothing is going to change what has happened to her.


There are many good arguments against the death penalty, and I respect them. But to imply that those who do support it may actually believe it would "change what has happened to her" --- is insulting.




Which one of these options will result in undoing the damage done to that poor girl?

a) do nothing to him
b) slap on the wrist
c) twelve year sentence
d) execution

Given that that nothing on the list of options about what to do with this human garbage will "change what has happened to her", I say why not kill him and be done with it?

I choose d).


I'm not against the death penalty. I'm against death as a punishment. The death penalty should be used in the same way as dangerous animals are put down. Lots of people are wired wrong but some can't control themselves.

I'm against people that think that causing the guy pain is going to change anything


I think that's a fine take on it.

Would this guy qualify?
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