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runthegauntlet
Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: the southlands.
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| chris_J2 wrote: |
Your wikitravel article refers to Java & Bali. It also states that it still rains in the so called 'dry' season. Bali is NOT Sumatra & Malaysia, which have an EQUATORIAL climate, ie no rainy season.
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| And again, in winter, you have to be wary of monsoon affected areas (Eastern and N. Eastern areas). |
This contradicts your later quote. There is no winter monsoon with heavy rainfall in Bengal.
Repeating a fallacy ad nauseum does not make it correct. You are the one who has misconstrued. South of the equator is SUMMER regardless of whether it has an Equatorial climate or not, whichever way you cut it. I'll be sending the OP a pm.
You can misquote & waffle all you like, as I won't be responding further, rtg. |
And if you can read, that's exactly what I said. In the rainy season, it rains MORE.
Please show me where I ever said a single thing about Bengal? Really.
And please show me where I ever said it is winter in Indonesia.
Again, your deliberate misconstruing is pathetic. |
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chris_J2
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:05 pm Post subject: SEA |
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And please show me where I ever said it is winter in Indonesia.
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| It'll be rainy season in winter in Indonesia. I'd recommend further north. |
Please show me where I ever said a single thing about Bengal? Really.
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And again, in winter, you have to be wary of monsoon affected areas (Eastern and N. Eastern areas).
No. There are two monsoon seasons. The Eastern and N. Eastern areas are affected during the winter time, between October and February-ish. |
Newsflash. Bengal is in NE India. So much for your extensive knowledge of India, rtg. |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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| runthegauntlet wrote: |
www.wikitravel.com
India:
Climate:
"The Northeast monsoon hits the east coast between October and February, mostly in the form of occasional cyclones which cause much devastation every year. The only region that gets rains from both monsoons is Northeastern India, which consequently experiences the highest rainfall in the world. "
Indonesia:
Climate
"Upon arrival and disembarking from the plane, you'll immediately notice the sudden rush of warm, wet air. Indonesia is a warm place. It has no spring, summer, fall, or winter, just two seasons: rainy and dry, both of which are relative (it still rains during the dry season, it just rains less). While there is significant regional variation, in most of the country (including Java and Bali) the dry season is April to October, while the wet season is November to March. "
Ah well. You're full of crap and you've been called on it multiple times. You can keep showcasing your pretentious d-baggery, but really, is it necessary? |
Tourists don't tend to go to the Northeast of India hence October to March is prime travel time to India. |
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chris_J2
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:05 pm Post subject: SEA / India |
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OP: I've sent you a PM.
DD is correct. Assam is not a heavily touristed area of NE India. Darjeeling is in West Bengal & had no monsoon, when I was there (January 2002). Notice the blue skies over Kanchenjunga:
http://beta.trekearth.com/members/ChrisJ/photos/Asia/India/ |
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runthegauntlet
Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: the southlands.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: SEA |
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| chris_J2 wrote: |
And please show me where I ever said it is winter in Indonesia.
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| It'll be rainy season in winter in Indonesia. I'd recommend further north. |
Please show me where I ever said a single thing about Bengal? Really.
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And again, in winter, you have to be wary of monsoon affected areas (Eastern and N. Eastern areas).
No. There are two monsoon seasons. The Eastern and N. Eastern areas are affected during the winter time, between October and February-ish. |
Newsflash. Bengal is in NE India. So much for your extensive knowledge of India, rtg. |
Ah, another example of you lacking serious reading comprehension. As I already explained once, genius, the OP is in Korea. In winter in Korea, it will be the rainy season in Indonesia. Would drawing a picture help?
And again, for a second...third... time?
["The only region that gets rains from both monsoons is Northeastern India, which consequently experiences the highest rainfall in the world. "]
Yep, never mentioned Bengal, did I? I said 'certain areas'. So once again, you're pulling stuff out of your rear. Nor do I see every single city in N. Eastern India mentioned in the above quote from wiki. Hmm. Intriguing.
I don't know why I keep quoting things for you. It's obvious your reading comprehension is abysmal and you're going to nitpick every little thing to try and prove a semblance of a point which you can't really make.
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runthegauntlet
Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: the southlands.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: SEA / India |
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Yes, OP. Take note, if it's not raining on the day Chris J is in the area, it won't be the rainy season or a monsoon season.
If it didn't rain in Sumatra for his picture, there definitely won't be any more rainfall at any other time.
It's like this one time when I was in the Caribbean during hurricane season... and there was NO hurricane! Those guys and their hurricane season crap. Fear-mongers! Or this other time when I was in Bangkok and there was no rain. In the middle of the monsoon season! Can you possibly believe that?!! |
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runthegauntlet
Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: the southlands.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| D.D. wrote: |
| runthegauntlet wrote: |
www.wikitravel.com
India:
Climate:
"The Northeast monsoon hits the east coast between October and February, mostly in the form of occasional cyclones which cause much devastation every year. The only region that gets rains from both monsoons is Northeastern India, which consequently experiences the highest rainfall in the world. "
Indonesia:
Climate
"Upon arrival and disembarking from the plane, you'll immediately notice the sudden rush of warm, wet air. Indonesia is a warm place. It has no spring, summer, fall, or winter, just two seasons: rainy and dry, both of which are relative (it still rains during the dry season, it just rains less). While there is significant regional variation, in most of the country (including Java and Bali) the dry season is April to October, while the wet season is November to March. "
Ah well. You're full of crap and you've been called on it multiple times. You can keep showcasing your pretentious d-baggery, but really, is it necessary? |
Tourists don't tend to go to the Northeast of India hence October to March is prime travel time to India. |
Which is precisely why I said:
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And again, in winter, you have to be wary of monsoon affected areas (Eastern and N. Eastern areas). |
Nothing about the rest of India. Only about those areas that could be affected by monsoon.
You and Chris are taking the same reading classes, huh? Lesson of the week on attempting to read into things that aren't written? |
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Moldy Rutabaga
Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:36 am Post subject: |
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Where would I go with five weeks? I would see if Tiger Air or Air Asia has an unlimited flight ticket, or I would just buy cheap tickets a la carte -- and go to all of these places! You're on your own, and you won't get to do this often. Be greedy.
My itinerary: Fly to Thailand. Spend a few days in Bangkok and see the palace and some tourist cheese on Khao San Road. Head down to Phuket, and take a boat to Ko Phi Phi and then Krabi - Rai Leh. Good times. Worth two weeks.
Take a van or cheap flight from Krabi to Georgetown, Malaysia. Much more fun than Singapore and cheaper. Take the train down to Kuala Lumpur and a bus to Singapore. Two days is enough. It's pricey.
Take a cheap flight from there to Bali. Bali is bliss. Great food, fun, lots of nightlife, beautiful sunsets, surfing, and you can fill your backpack with pirate DVDs. My favorite place in SE Asia, although the people hassling you to buy junk can get wearing after a week.
I'm not getting into this weather war, but I've traveled SE Asia at various times of the year and never had unusually bad weather, although I was in Bali in early June when it was quite rainy. My advice is that you do not obsess about weather, but do try to time your trip so that you can avoid or are settled somewhere during Chinese New Year. This holiday can be a real hassle when everything shuts down and leaves you stranded -- though I'm not sure the Balinese celebrate it.
If it helps, pictures: http://keneckert.com/pictures/pictures.html |
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chris_J2
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:08 am Post subject: SEA |
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O.P.
I made a boo boo in my PM. Krabi is on the south west coast of Thailand, not 'south east'. You don't want to go there anyway, because of the Muslim separatist problems (Sungai Kolok to Yala, Songala, Pattani, Nara Thiwat should all be avoided). I wouldnt hang around Hatyai either, any longer than you need to, in transit. The Hatyai airport was bombed a few years back, and a Canadian was killed in another incident.
And the above poster is correct. Bali is predominanatly Hindu. I've suggested KL as a departure point, because Singapore is more expensive to fly out of. |
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Moldy Rutabaga
Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:10 am Post subject: |
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>I've suggested KL as a departure point, because Singapore is more expensive to fly out of.
When I went there, I took a bus to Singapore from KL and left by staying a night in grimy Johor Bahru, which is just across the border in Singapore. There's a cute little airport there that flies to Thailand and perhaps to Indonesia as well.
Some people love Singapore. It just didn't grow on me! I stayed in Geyland, which I thought was the least expensive area of Singapore, and it turned out to be the red-light district. Two days seems enough to me. |
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chris_J2
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:19 am Post subject: |
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Agreed, Moldy Rutabaga. If I ever went back to Singapore (unlikely, as it's v low on my 'must see' again list), I'd do a daytrip to Pulau Ubin.
http://www.wildsingapore.com/ubin/index.html
I never made it to Changi War Memorial either, although the bus drove past Kranji a few times, but it didn't look as interesting from the outside, as Kanchanaburi / Kwai, in Thailand:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kranji_War_Memorial
I stayed in Bencoolen Street. Yes, definitely get busses, boats, & planes from / to Johore Bharu in Malaysia, for 1/2 the Singapore prices. |
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steveinincheon
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: in The Shadows of Gyeyangsan
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Trying to get back to the OP's question, I would personally recommend Mainland SEA, if its your first time traveling there. The backpacker trail there is very well worn, but it is still possible to get off the beaten track if you want to, and mainland SEA is very easy to travel in. The weather that time of year will be warm and sunny (except in Northern Vietnam) and it will be peak travel season there - which has both its plusses and minuses. The budget you mentioned will be more than enough, provided you don't go too crazy in Bangkok or the Thai islands. |
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