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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 6:33 pm Post subject:

katydid wrote:

My brother has a rug painting of dogs playing poker.

The rug is tacky, but the prints of dogs playing pool and dogs playing poker are classic.

Jensen

Joined: 30 Mar 2003
Location: hippie hell

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 6:34 pm Post subject:

matko wrote:

indiercj wrote:

matko wrote:

I don't understand your answer.

Are Korean authors only popular in Korean or do they have a following in other Asian countries?

I'm assuming that they would be translated if that's what you're getting at. Confused

Of course they are only popular in Korean. I doubt there are enough people from other Asian countries speaking Korean fluently enough to translate them. Maybe judging from recent trend in watching Korean films and TV dramas and the fact that more people are learning Korean could lead them to be interested in Korean literature. Who knows?

I should have wrote 'popular in Korea' and not Korean.

All it takes is one person to translate a copy into, for example, Japanese.

I am sure many Korean books have been translated into other languages, no?

Do they have a following abroad? I think most countries can claim to have authors who are popular in other countries that do not share the same language. I am curious who those Korean authors are and in what countries are they popular?

That's an interesting question.
There are probably many Japanese translations of the standard Korean "masterpieces". I wonder if there are a lot of fans of Korean lit in Japan and what particular Korean writers might have made their way into mainstream familiarity there? There are Russian, French, and German scholars who, like English-speaking Korean studies scholars, translate Korean literature into their native languages. But scholars tend to focus on what has already become accepted as Litererature (capital "L")...Korea's lit 101 is gradually getting completed in the US and it's a good resource but not the sort of thing that inspires mad devotion of the sort that contemporary Japanese authors are starting to receive worldwide. I see a lot more interest in Korean films here in the US than in Korean writings, small town video stores in the PNW are stocking Chun Hyang, Shiri, etc.

I got to interpret for a Hmong family at the Korean video store in Portland the other day. They didn't speak Korean but they apparently love Korean historical stuff..."funny hats and sword fighting."

Jensen

Joined: 30 Mar 2003
Location: hippie hell

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 6:41 pm Post subject:

Ody wrote:

I didn't know Jackson Pollock wrote books! He's a good painter though.

Damn straight.

Corporal

Joined: 25 Jan 2003

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:05 pm Post subject:

Ody wrote:

Corporal wrote:

Define great.

I don't think Jackson Pollock is so great. But many people have heard of him. In fact, he's downright famous.

But he isn't so great.

In fact, he sucks.

HTH

I didn't know Jackson Pollock wrote books! He's a good painter though.

Of course he's a painter. Who said he wrote books? I didn't know he wrote books either. We were talking about art in general, weren't we?

Ody

Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: over here

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:48 pm Post subject:

Corporal wrote:

...We were talking about art in general, weren't we?

thread title: "The Great Korean Author ________"

Ody

Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: over here

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 8:01 pm Post subject:

katydid wrote:

I don't know. A lot of people complain about modern art and say they can do that, why is this artist so famous and making money and I'm not? I've always kind of wondered when I did see say a painting of a green square on a yellow background if the artist is somehow communicating to his audience that those who create art don't have to be well-trained, well schooled, or even well-skilled. They just went out and painted. Maybe the end result looks like "nothing" but I think Pollock's method of painting was really interesting, if not revolutionary. He was well-schooled and probably could have done Monet knock-offs for the rest of his life but chose not to.
Think about a big white canvas in front of you and having all this paint and throwing it around and seeing what happens, what's created in the moment. You could say that maybe the finished product on its own looks nothing like art to you, but certainly, the time and method spent on creating what gets hung on the wall is art itself. I remember in an art class I took in high school, we were given the chance to create our own Pollock-style painting and while OK, I don't remember what I painted, I do remember having a hell of a lot of fun with it.
So I think if you look at his art as saying "anyone can do this," technically, that *is* a good thing, isn't it?

This is all pretty well said. Thanks, Katydid, for your thoughtful input.

My own take on the wet paintings by Pollack or Rothko�s block paintings, is that they are an essential part of the evolution of painting. And, not to detract from the relevance of their talent or the importance of their contribution, that Pollack's and Rothko's (and other's) success had a little something to do with good timing.

Ody

Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: over here

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 8:10 pm Post subject:

tokki wrote:

...Im gonna laugh at you though, and your ilk.

You're breaking my heart.

So Tokki, Are you Frankenstein or Phyllis?

Corporal

Joined: 25 Jan 2003

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 9:40 pm Post subject:

Ody wrote:

My own take on the wet paintings by Pollack or Rothko’s block paintings, is that they are an essential part of the evolution of painting. And, not to detract from the relevance of their talent or the importance of their contribution, that Pollack's and Rothko's (and other's) success had a little something to do with good timing.

That's exactly what I would have expected you to say. And I could have written the exact same paragraph if I wanted to bother, except that I don't believe it. It's not that hard to bulls.h.i.t. having had some or plenty of art appreciation, especially if you were raised on truly great art (a category to which J.P's work does not belong) as I was.

Ody

Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: over here

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 10:27 pm Post subject:

Corporal wrote:

Ody wrote:

Excuse me if I say so but, unless you are the acception, your art appreciation instructors failed in their jobs.

I took my first university life study class when I was 12 where, in addition to drawing from nude models, still lives etc., we studied the masters. It was compulsory that we learn to draw in all their styles. This gave me a foundation that is not unlike that studied by students of art through the ages.

As for your guessing correctly, what I would say on this or any subject, it's a nice try but we belong to leagues that are miles apart. I for one respect our differences enough to recognize that, if I remain open to the possibility, I can learn something from you.

Maybe you're done learning?