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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:30 pm    Post subject: One Messed Up Picture Reply with quote

Picture with mouse-over interpretations availible here.

My favorite part is the college professor sitting next to Satan. The interpretative text for said Professor is also eerily reminiscent of the words of certain individuals around these parts. I also think it's funny that the journalist is aligned with Satan, because, "Most of the media today are biased towards the left..." Funny that the artist in question seems to consider leftism evil, but none the less gives tributes to many left-leaning historic figures by placing them right up there behind Jesus.

What sort of sociopath considers soldiers -- individuals who are paid to kill others on demand -- to somehow be a good thing, while construing college professors and journalists to be evil?

If nothing else, the artist in question managed to capture the essence of American Conservativism quite well.
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha! That's hilarious.

Cheers.

The 'smug' professor, and Mr Hollywood looking down at the judge and pregnant woman with ridicule and amusement. Laughing Getting into the minds of rightwing nutters is fun.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:35 am    Post subject: Re: One Messed Up Picture Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
Picture with mouse-over interpretations availible here.

What sort of sociopath considers soldiers -- individuals who are paid to kill others on demand -- .



...like cops, doctors, vets, pest exterminators, executioners, and border patrol guards?
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Fox



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:53 am    Post subject: Re: One Messed Up Picture Reply with quote

The Great Wall of Whiner wrote:
Fox wrote:
Picture with mouse-over interpretations availible here.

What sort of sociopath considers soldiers -- individuals who are paid to kill others on demand -- .



...like cops, doctors, vets, pest exterminators, executioners, and border patrol guards?


Police officers can only kill in extreme situations where their own lives or the lives of innocents are in danger. Doctors, vets, and pest exterminators don't kill people. Executioners are are unethical. Border patrol guards shouldn't be killing anyone ever, as they don't need to do function; tranquilizer weapons are sufficient. As such, any boarder patrol guard that kills anyone is unethical.

None of these people are like soldiers, except the executioner, who I condemn equally. When a soldier kills people, he's just doing his duty. The same is not true of the others, excepting perhaps when a police officer kills in defense of innocent life which is in immediate danger.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:50 am    Post subject: Re: One Messed Up Picture Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
Police officers can only kill in extreme situations where their own lives or the lives of innocents are in danger.


You managed to get that one correct.

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Doctors, vets, and pest exterminators don't kill people.


Doctors do assist in executions.

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Executioners are are unethical.


That's your opinion. The law in many places stipulates death as a penalty for some crimes. So, the executioner is carrying out the law. While I'm personally against capital punishment, I'm not going to say someone obeying the law is unethical.

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Border patrol guards shouldn't be killing anyone ever, as they don't need to do function;


What part of the Border Patrol Agents being Law Enforcement Officers do you not understand? You just provided a situation where you believe it's okay for a police officer to kill someone. And Border Patrol Agents have been killed while performing their duties. Perhaps you could explain how one of those tranquilizer weapons would've saved the life of the Agent in that story?

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tranquilizer weapons are sufficient.


A remark made out of pure ignorance, that. If tranquilizer weapons were sufficient to remove a threat to the LEO or innocent civilians, that's the only type of weapon LEO would have.

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As such, any boarder patrol guard that kills anyone is unethical.


That's not a comment made out of ignorance. It's made out of prejudice.

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None of these people are like soldiers, except the executioner, who I condemn equally. When a soldier kills people, he's just doing his duty. The same is not true of the others, excepting perhaps when a police officer kills in defense of innocent life which is in immediate danger.


Soldiers are not in the "killing for fun" business. They also must obey the law, just like police officers, before killing someone. How can you have gone this far in life today and never have heard the term "rules of engagment" when that term's been used in so many news reports recently? Soldiers do a lot more than you think. For one thing, they're doing a pretty good job of defending South Korea right now, and have been for over 60 years.

Also, when a police officer kills someone, isn't he "just doing his duty"?

Here's a fun fact. Some soldiers are conscientious objectors, two of whom have even been awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor. Here is the story of one of them.

It's really fun knowing what one's talking about. You should try it.
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Fox



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:13 am    Post subject: Re: One Messed Up Picture Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
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Doctors, vets, and pest exterminators don't kill people.


Well, doctors do assist in executions.


Doctors take an oath to do no harm. The moment they assist in executions, they stop being doctors and start being executioners. My response to such contemptible individuals is covered under my response regarding executioners.

CentralCali wrote:
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Executioners are are unethical.


Well, that's your opinion.


Yes, it is my opinion. It's also a fact. Executioners are paid killers enacting unethical legislation.

CentralCali wrote:
The law in many places stipulates death as a penalty for some crimes. So, the executioner is carrying out the law.


Laws can be -- and historically at times have been -- unethical. I don't care what the law says. Slavery laws were unethical. Jim Crow laws were unethical. The death penalty is unethical. Sometimes, the truly justy thing to do is to resist the law, unfortunately.

CentralCali wrote:
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Border patrol guards shouldn't be killing anyone ever, as they don't need to do function;


What part of the Border Patrol Agents being Law Enforcement Officers do you not understand? You just provided a situation where you believe it's okay for a police officer to kill someone.


I admit that's a good point, so allow me to amend my response in that case with the fact that yes, it's acceptable for a Boarder Patrol Agent to use lethal force if and only if it will save innocent lives which are in direct danger.

CentralCali wrote:
Look, ignorant sod, soldiers are not in the "killing for fun" business.


Soldiers are a terrible thing: individuals who will kill on government command in situations where no innocent lives are in direct danger. Every horrific regime ever has been able to function because people were willing to act as soldiers.

CentralCali wrote:
For one thing, they're doing a pretty good job of defending South Korea right now, and have been for over 60 years.


Yeah, defending Korea against North Korean soldiers. Defend these paid killers all you like, it won't change a thing about their essentially destructive nature. The profession of soldier is a scourge upon this world. Police men, doctors, pest control, etc: all these professions have a place in a peaceful, reasonable world. Soldiers don't.

Maybe we need soldiers because other nations also have them. That doesn't make them less worthy of contempt, it just makes them a necessary evil. Just like, say, nuclear weapons. The ideal is to remove them from the world.

CentralCali wrote:
Also, when a police officer kills someone, isn't he "just doing his duty"?


If a police officer perfectly and ideally performs their duty, no one dies. It's an unfortunate, unavoidable situation when the police have to take someone down to save innocent lives. The same is not true of soldiers.

CentralCali wrote:
Here's a fun fact. Some soldiers are conscientious objectors, two of whom have even been awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.


Wonderful for them.


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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're obviously immune to reason. Your "peaceful, pefect world" has police officers? That's hilarious.
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Fox



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
You're obviously immune to reason.


No, I'm simply not willing to accept your totally unsound attempt at equating soldiers with police officers and doctors.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, right. You're laying claim to the moral high ground while you're equating the United Nations Command and the Armed Forces of the Republic of Korea with North Korea?
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Fox



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
Yeah, right. You're laying claim to the moral high ground while you're equating the United Nations Command and the Armed Forces of the Republic of Korea with North Korea?


They both consist of paid individuals who would kill on government orders in situations where no innocent lives are in immediate danger. The fact that individuals are willing to do that is the entire reason governments like North Korea can be a threat to anyone at all. Forgive me for not considering paid killer a noble profession. As I said, at best they're a necessary evil.
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Pluto



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, first, this is an absolutely ridiculous picture. Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin among many of the other founding fathers were not Christians. The most that can be said is that they were deists. I also saw Thomas Payne there too, he was more than just not a Christian, he was an outright anti-theist. I grow tired of these silly and false conservative arguments that the US is a Christian nation, founded by Christian men and led by Christian principles. I'll accept judeo-christian philosophy, but not Christianity.

As for soldiers, they are needed to protect US sovereignty. Although, it should be limited to that, protecting US sovereignty. I agree with Sun Tzu's premise that one of the best ways to provide peace is for a nation is to have a strong army that no one will want to fight. However, the Army should not be used to fight, lest the weaknesses of the military be exposed leaving the nation more vulnerable. Judging where the US and its military prowess went from in 2002 to where we are today, it seems that Sun Tzu was right.
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The funniest part is when you click on the college student and he claims that 'the 5,000 year leap' is the most influential book ever written....' Apparently without the US Constitution none of the rest fo the world would have gone on to modernise and that the said constitution took the world from 'hoes and shovels to taking a man to the moon.'

Lol
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Fox



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP wrote:
The funniest part is when you click on the college student and he claims that 'the 5,000 year leap' is the most influential book ever written....' Apparently without the US Constitution none of the rest fo the world would have gone on to modernise and that the said constitution took the world from 'hoes and shovels to taking a man to the moon.'

Lol


Strange that said college student is sitting around reading books like that while participating in an educational system controlled by satanic leftist college professors, isn't it?
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:56 pm    Post subject: Re: One Messed Up Picture Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
CentralCali wrote:
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Doctors, vets, and pest exterminators don't kill people.


Well, doctors do assist in executions.


Doctors take an oath to do no harm. The moment they assist in executions, they stop being doctors and start being executioners. My response to such contemptible individuals is covered under my response regarding executioners.



What about doctors who practise euthanasia/assisted suicide in places where it is legal and the patient has expressed a wish to die?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't get the page to load.
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