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Dharma_Blue
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 Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:50 pm Post subject: Having a Phd and working in Korea |
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| What are the job prospects in Korea like for westerners with Phd's? Not specifically in TESOL/Applied Linguistics per se, but other fields like East Asian History, Literature, Anthropology, Political Science, and so on. Are there teaching or research jobs available? Are they decent? Does one usually need a strong command of the language? |
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Konglishman
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Location: Nanjing
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| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I think the job prospects for a Westerner with a Ph.D. are fairly decent. In fact, even though I only have a Master of Science, that was enough to get me a teaching job at one of the reputable universities in Korea. And no, I will not be teaching English, but of course, I will be teaching my field of expertise in English. As for possible research positions, I actually have met a couple of Indian Ph.D.'s who had postdoc positions doing cancer research. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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It will be close to impossible to get a tenure track position.
Lecturing positions pay quit well. I think a 2h/w course pays close to 1.000.000 won. So if you can handle the work of 4 of them (admin included, you pbbly won't get a TA), it's a good income.
Summer- and winter intensives pay more, but are more stressful. |
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Dharma_Blue
Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Juregen wrote: |
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It will be close to impossible to get a tenure track position. |
Considering how saturated the current job market is right now for Phd's in the States, this would almost hold true for tenure-track positions back home, too. |
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Dharma_Blue
Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Juregen wrote: |
BUT
It will be close to impossible to get a tenure track position.
Lecturing positions pay quit well. I think a 2h/w course pays close to 1.000.000 won. So if you can handle the work of 4 of them (admin included, you pbbly won't get a TA), it's a good income.
Summer- and winter intensives pay more, but are more stressful. |
So that's 4mil a month for 8 teaching hours a week? Are you expected to publish on top of that? |
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tired of LA
Joined: 06 Nov 2006
Location: Seoul
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Konglishman
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing
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| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Dharma_Blue wrote: |
| Juregen wrote: |
BUT
It will be close to impossible to get a tenure track position.
Lecturing positions pay quit well. I think a 2h/w course pays close to 1.000.000 won. So if you can handle the work of 4 of them (admin included, you pbbly won't get a TA), it's a good income.
Summer- and winter intensives pay more, but are more stressful. |
So that's 4mil a month for 8 teaching hours a week? Are you expected to publish on top of that? |
After I start my job, I will have a 3 million won/month salary while teaching no more than 9 hours per week. And no, I will not be expected to publish although I would actually like to do that. |
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Stoakley
Joined: 20 Nov 2007
Location: Florea
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Yes, some schools do offer this - and growing each year. Just note that just because a school says that you are tenure track, that doesn't really mean that (100% of the time). The school advert linked here, however, DOES mean tenure track. |
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noskich
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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After I start my job, I will have a 3 million won/month salary while teaching no more than 9 hours per week. And no, I will not be expected to publish although I would actually like to do that. |
Would it be realistic to find 3 positions like that one and get 9 million for 27h p w? |
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Trevor
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:52 am Post subject: |
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I have never heard of a teacher being tenured at 3 universities simultaneously. I have definitely heard of people earning that amount by working a huge number of privates. If money is your main motivator and you are okay with working ridiculous hours, I think that is the way to go.
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| Konglishman wrote: |
After I start my job, I will have a 3 million won/month salary while teaching no more than 9 hours per week. And no, I will not be expected to publish although I would actually like to do that. |
Would it be realistic to find 3 positions like that one and get 9 million for 27h p w? |
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Konglishman
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:52 am Post subject: |
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| noskich wrote: |
| Konglishman wrote: |
After I start my job, I will have a 3 million won/month salary while teaching no more than 9 hours per week. And no, I will not be expected to publish although I would actually like to do that. |
Would it be realistic to find 3 positions like that one and get 9 million for 27h p w? |
I cannot imagine how that would be possible. If you sign a contract with one university, I doubt that they would let you simultaneously sign a contract at another university. The only scenario where I can imagine working at more than one university is if you are working on a part time basis at each one. Even then, I cannot imagine how it would be logistically possible to get a total of 27 teaching hours.
Now, I have to ask you, why would you even want to do that? Perhaps, you are only counting the teaching hours, but you are forgetting about office hours, time needed to grade assignments and exams, etc. And in my case, I will be teaching real academic subjects. So, I certainly would never want to compromise my ability to provide high quality classes. |
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spanglish
Joined: 03 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:43 am Post subject: |
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| Dharma - do you have a PhD? |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Dharma_Blue wrote: |
| Juregen wrote: |
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It will be close to impossible to get a tenure track position.
Lecturing positions pay quit well. I think a 2h/w course pays close to 1.000.000 won. So if you can handle the work of 4 of them (admin included, you pbbly won't get a TA), it's a good income.
Summer- and winter intensives pay more, but are more stressful. |
So that's 4mil a month for 8 teaching hours a week? Are you expected to publish on top of that? |
This is a lecturing position. No publications required.
But you need to resign every semester. So there is some risk involved.
If you have insufficient students, your class gets canceled. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| noskich wrote: |
| Konglishman wrote: |
After I start my job, I will have a 3 million won/month salary while teaching no more than 9 hours per week. And no, I will not be expected to publish although I would actually like to do that. |
Would it be realistic to find 3 positions like that one and get 9 million for 27h p w? |
You will freak out and the quality of your classes will drop. |
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Konglishman
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Juregen wrote: |
| Dharma_Blue wrote: |
| Juregen wrote: |
BUT
It will be close to impossible to get a tenure track position.
Lecturing positions pay quit well. I think a 2h/w course pays close to 1.000.000 won. So if you can handle the work of 4 of them (admin included, you pbbly won't get a TA), it's a good income.
Summer- and winter intensives pay more, but are more stressful. |
So that's 4mil a month for 8 teaching hours a week? Are you expected to publish on top of that? |
This is a lecturing position. No publications required.
But you need to resign every semester. So there is some risk involved.
If you have insufficient students, your class gets canceled. |
Really, you were not even given a one year contract!?!? |
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