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calicoe
Joined: 23 Dec 2008
Location: South Korea
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 Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:45 pm Post subject: Reading Dave's ESL at work: used against you? |
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I'm just wondering. I scan this site most often at work, along with a host of other news sites from home. My Ko-teachers are pretty cool for the most part, but Dave's has a reputation among Koreans (deserved or not is not the point here).
They see the heading of this site as I frequently read and comment. Do you think that could be one of the silent factors that is held agains NET here? I'm not implying that this will stop me from reading the site during desk warming hours. But, I'm just wondering if this could be one of the mysterious factors that is suddenly held aganist people without telling them. What are your thoughts? |
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The Gipkik
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The Gipkik
Joined: 30 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:03 am Post subject: |
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| Where did you hear that Dave's has a rep with Koreans? I'm curious. At my school, none of my coteachers are familiar with the website. If there is an unspoken disdain about what websites a teacher can view--apart from clearly adult ones--and which can help or hinder you when it comes to rehiring, then I'd see it as an additional reason to not re-sign. |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| In two years I had so much desk warming, a lot of time on daves and never had even one comment. Facebook texas holdem got me in a lot of trouble and almost fired. They still don't believe I wasn't gambling for real cash at work. |
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Trinidad
Joined: 06 Oct 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:19 am Post subject: |
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| Haha, most mightey whities I talk to have never heard of this frorum. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:37 am Post subject: |
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| The Gipkik wrote: |
| If there is an unspoken disdain about what websites a teacher can view--apart from clearly adult ones--and which can help or hinder you when it comes to rehiring... |
The thing is... this is K-land! Unless your principal is an evangelical Christian fundamentalist, viewing soft-core porn on a public school-issued computer will be looked apon favourably when it comes to a (male) FT renewing!  |
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calicoe
Joined: 23 Dec 2008
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| The Gipkik wrote: |
| Where did you hear that Dave's has a rep with Koreans? I'm curious. At my school, none of my coteachers are familiar with the website. If there is an unspoken disdain about what websites a teacher can view--apart from clearly adult ones--and which can help or hinder you when it comes to rehiring, then I'd see it as an additional reason to not re-sign. |
Yeah, I know what you mean. I have gotten the impression from a number of sources. When I first arrived, there was a university hagwon administrator complaining to me about Dave's. I work at a public school, but he was the boss of acquaintances and would take them out for beers when they first arrived. Turns out, the uni hagwon ended up violating the contract and cheating them out of airfare, and the NETs did a runner.
I also know that this site is sometimes used as a target of ire for Korean netizens and hagwon owner associations. Again, I am not justifying anything, but merely wondering if others have come across negative reactions from other Koreans for using this site. |
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The Gipkik
Joined: 30 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| cruisemonkey wrote: |
The thing is... this is K-land! Unless your principal is an evangelical Christian fundamentalist, viewing soft-core porn on a public school-issued computer will be looked apon favourably when it comes to a (male) FT renewing! |
 You do have a point. Sadly, it seems it's my ability to look like a gentleman--the VP's words--and my willingness to imbibe at school dinners that makes or breaks it. But, I couldn't do the PS gig for another year. I'd go nuts! |
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calicoe
Joined: 23 Dec 2008
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:51 am Post subject: |
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| The Gipkik wrote: |
| cruisemonkey wrote: |
The thing is... this is K-land! Unless your principal is an evangelical Christian fundamentalist, viewing soft-core porn on a public school-issued computer will be looked apon favourably when it comes to a (male) FT renewing! |
: But, I couldn't do the PS gig for another year. I'd go nuts! |
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:41 am Post subject: |
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| The Gipkik wrote: |
| Sadly, it seems it's my ability to look like a gentleman--the VP's words--and my willingness to imbibe at school dinners that makes or breaks it. |
Yup... It's kinda like 'opposite-land'. Apparently, I too am a binge-drinking, chain-smoking, porn-surfing 'gentelman' who refuses all requests to teach extra classes, be sent to another school, or go on weekend 'workshops' with the rest of the faculty. I rarely eat at the cafeteria (when I do, they have a collective orgasm). However, I do climb a mountain with them one afternoon/year during exam days... because even though we'll go for some horrific K-food afterward, there will be massive quantities of soju & maek-jju. I wear suit & tie with polished shoes for my yearly demo class - this makes me a better teacher - and the principal, v.p. and students love me.
My future is assured.  |
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Scouse Mouse
Joined: 07 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:21 am Post subject: |
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| The Korean teachers guide for the books used at my old Middle School listed Dave's as a source of EFL materials. |
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Joe666
Joined: 19 Nov 2008
Location: Jesus it's hot down here!
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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| It's a non issue. My English co-teachers see "ESL" and think I am researching for lesson plans. I do an awful lot of research during school hours!! |
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xingyiman
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Koreans are totally clueless about Dave's. Now English Spectrum, thats another matter. |
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calicoe
Joined: 23 Dec 2008
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| OK, good to know. But, just to put it out there, not all are clueless. Some have definite, albeit misguided, opinions about it, like some of the Korean teachers I've run across. |
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Clockout
Joined: 23 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, don't believe any Koreans I work with know about this site, Facebook, or anything else I kill time on. I'm sure it looks as indiscernable as the Korean sites look to my eye. |
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