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asmith
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 Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:51 pm Post subject: Teaching Korean army officers |
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I saw the job ad on the site.
Anybody done this? I see the ad from time to time which indicates it might have some high turnover. |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| I think that's a scam ad. |
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Murakano
Joined: 10 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:38 am Post subject: |
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| not a scam but it does have a higher turnover judging by the number of posters that have posted here in the past about working there and leaving. |
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Draz
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Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I think it looks kind of interesting, but even if I was willing to give up my current job for a six month (?) contract I really doubt they would hire a woman, especially a woman who is younger than all the students (27-40 years old). So here's one for the guys who sometimes complain about schools preferring female teachers. |
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halfmanhalfbiscuit
Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know the current ad but I've seen ads in the past along the lines of teaching at the academy near Taerung in NE Seoul.
I think it could be a very interesting position:
1, Motivated adult-minded students
2, Access to what ought to be top notch facilities and services
3, Mountainous part of Seoul eg Dobongsan
There's a nice little shooting range nearby too-38s, 45s, "Uzis". A little expensive, but pleasant staff. |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Assuming it is not a scam, they ought to specify that they want someone who is qualified on ST 22-2 for the things they want to do. That's usually an American Officer (male or female), not bachelor degree ESL teachers. |
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Thiuda
Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Location: Religion ist f�r Sklaven geschaffen, f�r Wesen ohne Geist.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I teach at the First Korean Army HQ twice a week on a part time basis and have been doing so for the past five years. It's a fantastic gig. The students are all highly motivated, educated and intelligent. The pay is great as well. If you can get a job with the military, go for it. |
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bluelake
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote: |
I don't know the current ad but I've seen ads in the past along the lines of teaching at the academy near Taerung in NE Seoul.
I think it could be a very interesting position:
1, Motivated adult-minded students
2, Access to what ought to be top notch facilities and services
3, Mountainous part of Seoul eg Dobongsan
There's a nice little shooting range nearby too-38s, 45s, "Uzis". A little expensive, but pleasant staff. |
I visit the KMA often, whenever I'm in Seoul, as some of the profs in the history dept. are close friends of mine. I gave a history lecture there this past spring; the cadets are extremely interested and motivated.
They have a really nice traditional archery club, too. |
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Sadebugo1
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Thiuda wrote: |
| I teach at the First Korean Army HQ twice a week on a part time basis and have been doing so for the past five years. It's a fantastic gig. The students are all highly motivated, educated and intelligent. The pay is great as well. If you can get a job with the military, go for it. |
I concur. I teach Korean military regularly in my job with the DOD. You don't have any discipline problems whatsoever unlike those boogers from the Middle East.
Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/ |
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fustiancorduroy
Joined: 12 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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TECO
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote: |
I don't know the current ad but I've seen ads in the past along the lines of teaching at the academy near Taerung in NE Seoul.
I think it could be a very interesting position:
1, Motivated adult-minded students
2, Access to what ought to be top notch facilities and services
3, Mountainous part of Seoul eg Dobongsan
There's a nice little shooting range nearby too-38s, 45s, "Uzis". A little expensive, but pleasant staff. |
I worked with someone several years ago who took a full time job in a military college.
He told me they were great students to work with compared with students at the regular university where he was teaching. he said the military students were motivated, bright and fun to teach. |
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TECO
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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Are you referring to the Korean Army Intelligence School position? I work there currently, though not as a teacher. I have been offered a teaching position starting after my current contract finishes, but I won't be taking it. To give a brief run-down of the job:
The Good:
- motivated, well-behaved students (they are military officers after all)
- curriculum developed by the US military
- personal classroom with your own group of students
- some flexibility with teaching
- decent(-ish) pay (about 22 hours per week at 30K an hour)
- about 4-weeks vacation for the year
- large, clean 3-room apartment next to the base provided
- large, diverse staff of foreign teachers
- clean air and lots of green space
The Bad:
- schedule changes every week, with classes often spread out across the day (i.e. 8-10 and 3-5)
- personality clashes between some of the teachers, which may make the work environment less pleasant
- teachers are discouraged from criticizing or otherwise trying to improve the school
- the base is isolated (there is a bus that goes to Jangji station that comes literally once an hour and another bus that goes to Bokjeong station that comes every ten minutes; the apartment complex has only a convenience store, a Korean PX, a chicken Hof, and a dry cleaners -- that's it)
- school building is quite old (built in 1981; the school will be moving to a brand-new facility in a couple years)
- vacation is unpaid
If you're a bit older and are not really interested in going out often or meeting people regularly, I don't think it's too bad a job. But if you enjoy being in the city and having a variety of shops and restaurants in your neighborhood, look elsewhere. |
Good run down of the pros and cons of this job! Wouldn't interest me either...I'd rather have crappy students in a good location, I guess. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:21 am Post subject: |
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| Thiuda wrote: |
| I teach at the First Korean Army HQ twice a week on a part time basis and have been doing so for the past five years. It's a fantastic gig. The students are all highly motivated, educated and intelligent. The pay is great as well. If you can get a job with the military, go for it. |
No doubt. However, I have a couple of questions:
- how is your hand phone hardened against an EMP; and,
- how will they get hold of you to tell you classes are cancelled?  |
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halfmanhalfbiscuit
Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| fustiancorduroy wrote: |
Are you referring to the Korean Army Intelligence School position? I work there currently, though not as a teacher. I have been offered a teaching position starting after my current contract finishes, but I won't be taking it. To give a brief run-down of the job:
The Good:
- motivated, well-behaved students (they are military officers after all)
- curriculum developed by the US military
- personal classroom with your own group of students
- some flexibility with teaching
- decent(-ish) pay (about 22 hours per week at 30K an hour)
- about 4-weeks vacation for the year
- large, clean 3-room apartment next to the base provided
- large, diverse staff of foreign teachers
- clean air and lots of green space
The Bad:
- schedule changes every week, with classes often spread out across the day (i.e. 8-10 and 3-5)
- personality clashes between some of the teachers, which may make the work environment less pleasant
- teachers are discouraged from criticizing or otherwise trying to improve the school
- the base is isolated (there is a bus that goes to Jangji station that comes literally once an hour and another bus that goes to Bokjeong station that comes every ten minutes; the apartment complex has only a convenience store, a Korean PX, a chicken Hof, and a dry cleaners -- that's it)
- school building is quite old (built in 1981; the school will be moving to a brand-new facility in a couple years)
- vacation is unpaid
If you're a bit older and are not really interested in going out often or meeting people regularly, I don't think it's too bad a job. But if you enjoy being in the city and having a variety of shops and restaurants in your neighborhood, look elsewhere. |
Good run down of the pros and cons of this job! Wouldn't interest me either...I'd rather have crappy students in a good location, I guess. |
Likewise. It would be difficult to supplement the renumeration unless one could get some editing gigs?
I've always enjoyed teaching ex-military officers though. Never had any experience with present military. Even if you can make more as a newbie kindergarten teacher  it could be OK. It is a nice part of Seoul. Bit isolated and isolating, but I hear Nowon-gu has become something like a satellite city to Seoul proper (first lived there 2000) |
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Meenam
Joined: 16 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| ok, so i just applied for this job...and now i'm beginning to doubt my decision. They are saying it is regulation to have an in person interview and since i still live in the states, that is a bit of a large financial commitment to this job that isn't even a certainty. fustiancorduroy, how set is that 22 hours? Do they really limit what you can work? it says they pay for extra work (books, translation) but do they actually offer these chances? Also, is the school really that isolated? the ad says 15 minutes by bus to jamsil which is fairly downtown... is it just for lack of buses? what about office hours? any such thing? is knowing korean going to help? sorry, lots of questions. I'm supposed to call them tonight and now i'm panicing after reading this thread. |
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