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Fox



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Shackleford wrote:
Fox wrote:
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
Fox wrote:
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
Old Gil wrote:
Pluto wrote:
Once you demand the government become involved, it becomes a matter of politics. Those who are serious about serving humanity re: healthcare would build clinics and hospitals. They would voluntarily ask for donations and for help in their cause. They might even solicit a few MDs and PAs to help them in their peaceful endeavors. However, in order to serve humanity, they would never coerce or otherwise threaten violence in such an effort.


Yes, all government is predicated on violence. Wonderful work.


Give it 5 minutes thought, and you will realise this is true. What happens if you don't pay your taxes? You will be thrown in prison. What is more violent than prison?


A world without governments.


Agreed. What is your point?


You asked a question. I answered it. That's all.


How was your answer relevant?


Think about it and see if you can figure it out for yourself. If you can't, don't worry about it.
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
Fox wrote:
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
Fox wrote:
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
Old Gil wrote:
Pluto wrote:
Once you demand the government become involved, it becomes a matter of politics. Those who are serious about serving humanity re: healthcare would build clinics and hospitals. They would voluntarily ask for donations and for help in their cause. They might even solicit a few MDs and PAs to help them in their peaceful endeavors. However, in order to serve humanity, they would never coerce or otherwise threaten violence in such an effort.


Yes, all government is predicated on violence. Wonderful work.


Give it 5 minutes thought, and you will realise this is true. What happens if you don't pay your taxes? You will be thrown in prison. What is more violent than prison?


A world without governments.


Agreed. What is your point?


You asked a question. I answered it. That's all.


How was your answer relevant?


Think about it and see if you can figure it out for yourself. If you can't, don't worry about it.


You are only following the reasoning from my post on. If you notice Old Gill said govts never use violence to which Pluto posited "all govt is based on violence." I concurred, citing the example that you will be thrown in jail, if you don't pay your taxes (which turned out to be not true in any case). So, really your answer was a non-sequiter.

If I had posted saying "What is more violent than prison?", with no qualifying statements, from myself or others, then "A world without govt", would like be a completely cogent response.
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Shackleford wrote:
Fox wrote:
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
Fox wrote:
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
Fox wrote:
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
Old Gil wrote:
Pluto wrote:
Once you demand the government become involved, it becomes a matter of politics. Those who are serious about serving humanity re: healthcare would build clinics and hospitals. They would voluntarily ask for donations and for help in their cause. They might even solicit a few MDs and PAs to help them in their peaceful endeavors. However, in order to serve humanity, they would never coerce or otherwise threaten violence in such an effort.


Yes, all government is predicated on violence. Wonderful work.


Give it 5 minutes thought, and you will realise this is true. What happens if you don't pay your taxes? You will be thrown in prison. What is more violent than prison?


A world without governments.


Agreed. What is your point?


You asked a question. I answered it. That's all.


How was your answer relevant?


Think about it and see if you can figure it out for yourself. If you can't, don't worry about it.


You are only following the reasoning from my post on. If you notice Old Gill said govts never use violence to which Pluto posited "all govt is based on violence." I concurred, citing the example that you will be thrown in jail, if you don't pay your taxes (which turned out to be not true in any case). So, really your answer was a non-sequiter.

If I had posted saying "What is more violent than prison?", with no qualifying statements, from myself or others, then "A world without govt", would like be a completely cogent response.


I know you feel that way. As I said, don't worry about it Rusty.
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Old Gil



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Shackleford wrote:




You are only following the reasoning from my post on. If you notice Old Gill said govts never use violence to which Pluto posited "all govt is based on violence."


I never said that.
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Gil wrote:
Rusty Shackleford wrote:




You are only following the reasoning from my post on. If you notice Old Gill said govts never use violence to which Pluto posited "all govt is based on violence."


I never said that.


Sorry. That nest of posts is a clusterbleep.
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