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[DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP]

http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/NEWKHSITE/data/html_dir/2009/10/06/200910060054.asp

[Triban]

Pure bollocks.


p.s. I am so bitter about this.

[yoda]

Thank you. The data really does say a lot. Foreign crime is sensationalistic, but also a lot less common. Too bad the sensationalism feeds into the rascist attitudes of some Koreans who are unwilling to approach the issue from a rational point of view.

[Captain Corea]

good to see those stats.

thanks for posting

[eamo]

It's nice to see confirmed what I already suspected...........

.......The way we are sometimes portrayed in the national media here is shocking. It just wouldn't fly in other countries where racism and xenophobia are frowned upon.

I've been teaching here for 9 years now, and the vast majority of the foreigners I've worked with have been law-abiding, well-meaning people trying to do their best at their job in the conditions they've been given.

I wonder if a news story will do the rounds in the Korean media showing these figures........

[ekul]

I'd be interested to see a breakdown of that 0.64%. Considering the background of teachers it doesn't seem a particularly low level. Slightly more than 1 out of 200 teachers is a criminal, sure 3.5 out of 100 Koreans commit some kind of crime but that's covering all social and economic backgrounds. Teachers in Korea have no right to commit any crimes.

[benji]

[VanIslander]

[ekul]

I never had much choice to live in the country I was born in, however if you make a conscious decision to move to another country you really should make a conscious decision not to commit crimes. You're probably right that most of the crimes are for visa violations and tutoring, which is why I was wondering what the break down would be.

I don't see how social class is moot either. I'd expect degree educated people to commit less crimes than low income people living in deprived areas. Perhaps if we could get hold of the date for degree holding Koreans and their crime rate we could come to some kind of conclusion as to who commits more crime.

[DrugstoreCowgirl]

So what more is immigration going to make E-2 applicants do? I mean, haven't we done pretty much everything already?

[eamo]

[Billos]

"Teachers in korea have no right to commit crimes" What does that mean? Nobody has a right to commit crime, thats why its called a crime.

This

[DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP]

Yeah Ekul is being plain silly now.

No-one has the right to commit crime regardless of where they live and should be held accountable by the law (rule of law means Ekul that NOBODY is more or less above the law than anyone else) this applies (gasp) EQUALLY to all regardless of status.


anyway, back on topic - seriously - what else can they do on top of a NOTARIZED CRC and all the background checks already in place?

Throw us in the Han and see if we sink or swim????

[ekul]

I'll concede that I could have worded that sentence better. However one statistic pops up that makes you feel a little better and there's no analysis of it. Statistics statistics and god damned lies.

If the E-2 visa holders were from a proportional makeup of the 7 E-2 visa countries we could begin to compare it to a national crime rate. However the most we can really say is that out of the people who came to Korea with at least a Bachelor degree and a clean criminal record that they commit less crimes than the average Korean. Not exactly a shock.

My post has nothing to do with the xenophobia, vilification and scaremongering in the Korean press. That's unjustified, I'd just rather be a little more objective with the stats.

[cdninkorea]

The stats also only mention arrests, not convictions. I doubt it would change the statistic by any huge amount, but I'm sure there are a few of those English teachers arrested who weren't convicted.