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[Troutslayer]

Now, this has two sides.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9BAVF200&show_article=1


Side A: The Muslim team is a bunch of twats for not playing. If they really had a problem against the rainbow squad, then why wouldn't they step up and play, hoping to stomp them?

Side B: The gay team claims homophobia. The Muslims are not afraid of gay people, they just don't want to participate in a game that involves those who act against their beliefes. I don't think it is fear, it is just standards. The word "homophobia" is used to lightly and is often taken out of context.

But then again, perhaps they WERE afraid of loosing to them?


slayer of trout

[On the other hand]

[scotty12347]

On one hand i think its pathetic, but on the other hand, everybody should be able to choose their religion and how they apply it (within reason).

To ban them was the correct decision.

Also OP,without meaning to be a pain about it but its losing not loosing, just a pet hate, please dont take it badly.

Are there any decent amateur football teams in Seoul foreigners can join? Is there a Daves 5 a side team?

[Troutslayer]

[JMO]

I'd say it is part of the league rules that you have to play everyone scheduled. There probably are exceptions to this rules (natural disasters etc) but their excuse wasn't one of the exceptions. Therefore they get kicked out. Seems pretty simple.

[Fox]

[Reggie]

Instead of banning them, I think a forfeiture of the game would be more fair. For example, if the Muslim team was 5-2, then refusing to play the gay team would make them 5-3 as they move on to their next opponent. If the Muslims end up having to face a gay team in the playoffs and refuse to play them, then they're eliminated and the gay team advances to the next round.

They might want to consider dropping the whole schedule for next year or whenever it is they come off their ban. After all, a lot of the players on the straight teams are fornicating, getting spanked by dominatrices, watching porn, and some of the other fun things straight non-Muslims like to do.

[JMO]

[richardlang]

If a person can be a victim of racism, then a gay person can be a victim of demonstrated like-hatred, too.

Say, a black team refused to play a white team because their collective belief considers whites as people who don't deserve human dignity, the whites would be victims of racism.

The only difference here is that the Muslim team refuses a sports engagement with a gay team under the auspices of religion (i.e. religion sacrosanct), and the aforementioned black team justifies it secularly (i.e. way of life preference). Some accept the Muslim team's refusal as simply a religious decision, which supposedly precludes our being able to dignify it as bigotry. Though, nearly everyone wouldn't accept even for one second the black team's secular justification for their refusal to play the white team. The whites would be victims of racism, of course.

Additionally, here in this sports news report it's not about people being harmed by real, abusive racial prejudice and, therefore, being labeled victims. It's about gay people being degraded for their sexual orientation and being denied human dignity. That is, precluding gays from one's dignifying them as victims even as one himself/herself dignifies people who are victims of racism.

Dictionary.com says, a victim is "one who is harmed by or made to suffer from an act, circumstance, agency, or condition."

This isn't about wildly applying the label of victimhood upon everyone for every little slight under the sun. It's about demonstrations of hatred of race and hatred of sexual orientation. This is about gays and straights, blacks and whites. We reject the indignity and real harm of racism. It's real and there are real victims. I don't think we should do anything less than reject like-hatred of and discrimination toward people for their sexual orientation.

We're not talking about prejudice toward necrophiliacs/incest-lovers who claim to be victims or anything.

[Fox]

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