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Trevor
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
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roadwork
Joined: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Goin' up the country
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But it came from the "2009 police white paper" so it must be true. They should publish some credible links if they expect anyone to believe this crap. But then again, who really reads it but the foreign community?
Oh, and it's nice how they don't distinguish nationality either...Like that's anything new. |
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calicoe
Joined: 23 Dec 2008
Location: South Korea
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This article is almost pathetically comical:
"While the nation's average indictment rate for sexual crimes was 45 percent in 2008, the rate for foreigners was 39.7 percent over the past eight years. "
So, they are averaging a lower rate for foreign crime over 8 years for the local rate of 45 percent in one year ... Wow - that's really shedding light on a burgeoning situation 
"According to the 2009 police white paper published in September, a total of 20,623 foreign criminals were arrested last year, up 41.9 percent from 14,524 in the previous year. "
Arrests don't make a crime.
"The foreign population permanently residing in Korea exceeded 1 million for the first time in 2007."
Oh right - the real crime. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:09 am Post subject: |
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| Quite the contrast from last week's article. Except this time the writer is Korean. |
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coralreefer_1
Joined: 19 Jan 2009
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Is it just me, or does anyone else see the irony of such an article. Of course the number of incidents has risen because the number of foreigners has risen...though based on the number posted by the same paper concerning the increase in the foreign population has increased over 8 years..the percentage of sexual incidents had decreased per capita concerning foreigner.
I love the lawmakers comment that "we should punish them severely", as if sexual crime committed by a foreigner is somehow more serious than the VAST overwhelming majority of sexual crimes committed by Koreans..most of which rarely get reported, and those that do are paid off with cash to avoid prosecution. Too bad these people with such a hard on for meaningless statistics (since when did printing statistics equate to journalism anyway) can't dig up some statistics about the huge amount of crime that never makes it to the limelight because of this blood money system to keep quiet and keep it off the record. Wow..i suppose that would involve real journalism....
Keep up the good work over there at the KH sparky.... |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| "The police and prosecution should punish them strictly, while taking measures for prevention." |
While apparently downplaying or ignoring rapes committed by Koreans.
SOUTH Korean police say they have arrested a (Korean) man accused of raping 125 women over the past nine years.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/married-father-raped-125-women/story-e6frf7k6-1225770740104
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| The foreign population permanently residing in Korea exceeded 1 million for the first time in 2007. |
Permanently residing??
The vast majority are temporary migrant workers.
"perfect storm" are the words that spring to mind when I think of this country. Ultimately one has to realise that Koreans simply dislike foreigners and do not wish to have us in their country, and no amount of logic will counterract this gut feeling. I used to think it was improving in the younger generation but I'm not so sure anymore. If they were honest, Koreans would simply admit that they have no legitimate reason to, but they just dislike foreigners anyway. Instead of printing all this ridiculous lies to try and find a way to justify their xenephobia. |
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Trevor
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:50 am Post subject: |
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| "While the nation's average indictment rate for sexual crimes was 45 percent in 2008, the rate for foreigners was 39.7 percent over the past eight years. " |
The reason less foreigners are indicted is simple: it's because more foreigners are brought up on charges with no evidence. If there was evidence, they would DEFINITELY be indicted.
Anybody that took statistics 101 could blow this article out of the water....oh, that's right...we're in Korea....everybody cheated on their statistics 101 final  |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:15 am Post subject: |
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| "While the nation's average indictment rate for sexual crimes was 45 percent in 2008, the rate for foreigners was 39.7 percent over the past eight years. " |
The reason less foreigners are indicted is simple: it's because more foreigners are brought up on charges with no evidence. If there was evidence, they would DEFINITELY be indicted.
Anybody that took statistics 101 could blow this article out of the water....oh, that's right...we're in Korea....everybody cheated on their statistics 101 final |
Britain was just as bad to its Carribean Immigrants in the 1950's. Blacks were demonised in the media and persecuted by the legal system. it took 40+ years for them to begin to be accepted into British society.
"The first arrivals - ambitious, hard-working and imbued with admiration for 'the mother country' and British 'traditions' - soon found themselves up against an insular people deeply impregnated with imperialistic notions of racial superiority, and suffered 'colour bar' attitudes similar only to those found in South Africa."
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Windrush-Irresistible-Rise-Multi-racial-Britain/dp/0006530397
Point is if foreigners truly want to be accepted in Korea it will take a lot of time and struggle. A permanently resident community standing up for themselves, rather than a revolving door of temporary ESL grads who do runners wenever things get tough. Koreans aren't just going to do the right thing of their own volition.
Koreans have little experience of diversity, they don't know how to relate to anyone who isn't korean. They feel threatened and are falling back on their hyper-nationalistic identity for security. It will take decades, (at least) before the one-sided media frenzy and racist attitudes become unacceptable. |
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Old Gil
Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:43 am Post subject: |
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Beyond just the KH, the real culprit is that Korean politicians can get away with this Jim Crow-style BS.
"They're after our women!" looks really pathetic in 2009. |
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calicoe
Joined: 23 Dec 2008
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:47 am Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
| Trevor wrote: |
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| "While the nation's average indictment rate for sexual crimes was 45 percent in 2008, the rate for foreigners was 39.7 percent over the past eight years. " |
The reason less foreigners are indicted is simple: it's because more foreigners are brought up on charges with no evidence. If there was evidence, they would DEFINITELY be indicted.
Anybody that took statistics 101 could blow this article out of the water....oh, that's right...we're in Korea....everybody cheated on their statistics 101 final |
Britain was just as bad to its Carribean Immigrants in the 1950's. Blacks were demonised in the media and persecuted by the legal system. it took 40+ years for them to begin to be accepted into British society.
"The first arrivals - ambitious, hard-working and imbued with admiration for 'the mother country' and British 'traditions' - soon found themselves up against an insular people deeply impregnated with imperialistic notions of racial superiority, and suffered 'colour bar' attitudes similar only to those found in South Africa."
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Windrush-Irresistible-Rise-Multi-racial-Britain/dp/0006530397
Point is if foreigners truly want to be accepted in Korea it will take a lot of time and struggle. A permanently resident community standing up for themselves, rather than a revolving door of temporary ESL grads who do runners wenever things get tough. Koreans aren't just going to do the right thing of their own volition.
Koreans have little experience of diversity, they don't know how to relate to anyone who isn't korean. They feel threatened and are falling back on their hyper-nationalistic identity for security. It will take decades, (at least) before the one-sided media frenzy and racist attitudes become unacceptable. |
Excellent post! |
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weatherman
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:49 am Post subject: |
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More sexual crimes committed by foreigners
In tandem with a growing number of foreign criminals here, the number of sexual crimes committed by foreigners increases every year, a lawmaker said yesterday.
Citing data from the Ministry of Justice, Rep. Woo Yoon-keun of the main opposition Democratic Party said that the number of sexual crimes by foreign nationals here has tripled over the past eight years.
The figure, which stood at 83 in 2001, increased to 235 in 2007 and 242 in 2008, according to Woo, who is also a member of the judiciary committee at the National Assembly. This year alone, a total of 170 cases have been confirmed as of August.
Of the total 1,289 cases during the past eight years, the most frequent crimes were rape with 600 cases, followed by sexual molestation with 433 and sexual harassment at public places with 109.
The number of sexual abuse against children under 13 and teenagers over the age was 65 and 70, respectively.
While the nation's average indictment rate for sexual crimes was 45 percent in 2008, the rate for foreigners was 39.7 percent over the past eight years.
"Along with the crime rate of foreigners, the number of sexual crimes committed by them is rapidly increasing," said the lawmaker. "The police and prosecution should punish them strictly, while taking measures for prevention."
According to the 2009 police white paper published in September, a total of 20,623 foreign criminals were arrested last year, up 41.9 percent from 14,524 in the previous year.
In the same period, the total number of crimes committed here was 2,063,737, a 12.4 percent increase from the previous year.
The foreign population permanently residing in Korea exceeded 1 million for the first time in 2007.
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Me thinks Lee ji-yoon is a wet the nape reporter. |
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mc_jc
Joined: 13 Aug 2009
Location: C4B- Cp Red Cloud, Area-I
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:03 am Post subject: |
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| Point is if foreigners truly want to be accepted in Korea it will take a lot of time and struggle. A permanently resident community standing up for themselves, rather than a revolving door of temporary ESL grads who do runners wenever things get tough. |
Thats the biggest problem facing the expat community in Korea is that it is such a revolving door- and most people are consumed by the concept of "me me and more me"- everyone is out for themselves. The "me concept" prevents the expat community from standing up for the issues that pertain to us.
And Koreans don't view our community as permanent- that we all will eventually have to go home. |
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gregoriomills
Joined: 02 Mar 2009
Location: Busan, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:22 am Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
| Trevor wrote: |
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| "While the nation's average indictment rate for sexual crimes was 45 percent in 2008, the rate for foreigners was 39.7 percent over the past eight years. " |
The reason less foreigners are indicted is simple: it's because more foreigners are brought up on charges with no evidence. If there was evidence, they would DEFINITELY be indicted.
Anybody that took statistics 101 could blow this article out of the water....oh, that's right...we're in Korea....everybody cheated on their statistics 101 final |
Britain was just as bad to its Carribean Immigrants in the 1950's. Blacks were demonised in the media and persecuted by the legal system. it took 40+ years for them to begin to be accepted into British society.
"The first arrivals - ambitious, hard-working and imbued with admiration for 'the mother country' and British 'traditions' - soon found themselves up against an insular people deeply impregnated with imperialistic notions of racial superiority, and suffered 'colour bar' attitudes similar only to those found in South Africa."
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Windrush-Irresistible-Rise-Multi-racial-Britain/dp/0006530397
Point is if foreigners truly want to be accepted in Korea it will take a lot of time and struggle. A permanently resident community standing up for themselves, rather than a revolving door of temporary ESL grads who do runners wenever things get tough. Koreans aren't just going to do the right thing of their own volition.
Koreans have little experience of diversity, they don't know how to relate to anyone who isn't korean. They feel threatened and are falling back on their hyper-nationalistic identity for security. It will take decades, (at least) before the one-sided media frenzy and racist attitudes become unacceptable. |
This is a good post. However, there is a HUGE difference between the "immigrant" populations in the western world and the mainstream expat community in Korea. Probably between 2/3 and 3/4 of us come here for a "gap" year (or 2) experience. Because of this, we have very little reason to invest in our long-term well being as a population.
Like mentioned above, Koerans won't change their attitudes if they don't have to. And I sure as hell don't plan on sticking around to change Koreans' general outlook of foreigners. I'm gonna do my classes, make my money, and get out before I become bitter or too cynical. |
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xingyiman
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Most racism in this country is based upon the fear that we are shagging their women.
Foreigners caught for drugs - (realspeak - they are getting high and shagging our women)
Foreigners using fake documentation to enter Korea - (realspeak -They are using fake documentation to obtain jobs and shagging our women)
Foreigners don't get prosecuted for the crimes they commit-(realspeak - they get let out of jail so they can immdiately go and shag more Korean women)
Foreigners womrking illegally doing privates -(realspeak- They are generating more money by which to use to shag more Korean women) |
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Buffalo
Joined: 15 Aug 2009
Location: Ilsan
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| WOW, finally, a thread worth reading! Bravo! Reading through this sent me on a roller coaster of emotions! One moment I was outraged, the next moment I was laughing, the next I felt empowered enough to be the next Che Guevara for foreigners in Korea, and then I ended up laughing my @$$ off again! Now I just wished I had a cool Dave's ESL avatar and an English speaking co-teacher... |
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