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Tigerstyleone
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 Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:04 am Post subject: Where do students respect foreign teachers? |
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Finishing my second year in Korea.
Can you suggest any place where the students respect foreign teachers and behave during class? Does a place like this even exist? |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:19 am Post subject: |
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I've worked at many different places: kindie, elementary school, lots of kids hagwons, two high schools, an adult hagwon, and now at a university.
I got the most respect at the adult hagwon: Wall Street Institute. I enjoyed high school too but it turns out I got lucky there because not everyone gets respect it turns out. |
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Xuanzang
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Location: Sadang
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:32 am Post subject: |
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| Countryside school? |
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UrbanStyle
Joined: 23 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| depends, my elementary school kids were great, they bowed and were very polite, in school and when i saw them outside. this was ins a seoul satellite city. |
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hockeyguy109
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Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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| UrbanStyle wrote: |
| depends, my elementary school kids were great, they bowed and were very polite, in school and when i saw them outside. this was ins a seoul satellite city. |
Even after 6-7 months? How in the world did you manage that? Hit them or something? |
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The Gipkik
Joined: 30 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| hockeyguy109 wrote: |
| UrbanStyle wrote: |
| depends, my elementary school kids were great, they bowed and were very polite, in school and when i saw them outside. this was ins a seoul satellite city. |
Even after 6-7 months? How in the world did you manage that? Hit them or something? |
OP, depends what kind of respect you're looking for. If you're expecting the students to respond to you in the same way they behave with the Korean teachers, that would be unlikely. Seriously, would you necessarily want that? I think the ideal here is for students to still feel unselfconscious about playing with you and bantering in English outside the classroom, which definitely shouldn't be fawning politeness and ritualized body language AND listening to you and obeying you in class. The firm teacher fun teacher paradox is my ideal. Get students to see this contrast by how you treat them in class: when you are serious, make no bones about it, but when you are playful, make it clear that this is the role you are now playing. Students will start getting it. But don't make it look bipolar.  |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Students and co-workers tend to respect the type of teacher that's making an attempt to adopt to life in Korea meaning learning the language and following the customs teaching is secondary |
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whiteshoes
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Mexico? |
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP
Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: Electron cloud
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Xuanzang wrote: |
| Countryside school? |
And we have a winner.
You win first prize of; the poached egg in my sundooboo chiggae, the burnt rice and the bottom of the pan and a bottlle of Seoul Magkolli.
Seriously, it's true. No, not the prize. Find yourself a nice countryside school with under a 100 students (mine has under 50.)
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| The firm teacher fun teacher paradox is my ideal. Get students to see this contrast by how you treat them in class: when you are serious, make no bones about it, but when you are playful, make it clear that this is the role you are now playing. Students will start getting it. But don't make it look bipolar |
Bang on. From the get go and especially in the first two weeks I make a big deal of how the classroom will be run, teach them study skills and classroom language (ie actually look at me when I talk etc) and after the serious stuff I do some fun games and give out reward stickers and joke around and act funny. But those stickers soon dissapear and you will quickly find yourself stood up doing a 'manzeh' for five minutes at your desk if you get too far out of line. But I don't get angry.
So they kind of click and think 'hmmm, I can have him as the nice funny guy (that was kind of cool) but I have to study, or I can p him off and no one will like me. Plus everyone else will have more stickers....'
Obvious choice for most kids. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: Where do students respect foreign teachers? |
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| Tigerstyleone wrote: |
Finishing my second year in Korea.
Can you suggest any place where the students respect foreign teachers and behave during class? Does a place like this even exist? |
You have to install respect. It's earned, not given. Be a hard-ass to start with and then gradually mellow (although not too much) over the year.
DROP AND GIVE ME TWENTY, SOLDIER!
WHAT'S YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTION, PRIVATE?
DID I GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO SPEAK?
Just preparing my boys for their army service.  |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:07 am Post subject: |
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| Private high school. Somewhere the students are academically inclined. |
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fustiancorduroy
Joined: 12 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:42 am Post subject: |
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| Private high school. Somewhere the students are academically inclined. |
I second this. |
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Tigerstyleone
Joined: 01 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:09 am Post subject: |
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| Wow, thank you for all the sincere replies. I will take all of this into consideration for my next job. |
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Old Gil
Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!
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| Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| You must understand the students are very stress. |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't be fooled by the country side school thing. I teach at 3 country side schools and my all boys is the most disrespectful place I have been yet and I have been at 5 different schools. |
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