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gbw84
Joined: 10 Aug 2009
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 Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:16 pm Post subject: I'm a decent, college educated Black man looking for a job. |
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| Times are hard in America and I felt this would be a good way to make money and see a bit of the world. I've applied to some ESL jobs but they turned me away for no other reason than the color of my skin. I'm not looking for pity I'm just looking for someone to give me an opportunity to partake in the Korean ESL experience. I'm open to teaching in both public and private schools. And I'm open to all age levels. If possible I would also like for someone to reach me with a phone number in the US that I could call and not have to worry about overseas charges. |
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chipsnsalsa
Joined: 28 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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You can wait until the next round (dec/jan/feb?) and apply to SMOE - From what I can tell, they don't seem to discriminate based on race or nationality (as long as you are from an English speaking country...)
I don't know if Epik is the same, but you could look into it.
Go through one of the major recruiters if you are having troubles (or want to do smoe). There are a bunch of threads here on reputable ones, I'm sure. |
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lowpo
Joined: 01 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a decent, college educated Black man looking for a j |
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| Times are hard in America and I felt this would be a good way to make money and see a bit of the world. I've applied to some ESL jobs but they turned me away for no other reason than the color of my skin. I'm not looking for pity I'm just looking for someone to give me an opportunity to partake in the Korean ESL experience. I'm open to teaching in both public and private schools. And I'm open to all age levels. If possible I would also like for someone to reach me with a phone number in the US that I could call and not have to worry about overseas charges. |
There are several black men and women working with EPIK in Ganwon-do |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| EPIK is a good one to try too. Probably a good 50% or greater of the hagwons won't hire you if you're black. |
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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007
Location: On your computer screen.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a decent, college educated Black man looking for a j |
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| gbw84 wrote: |
| Times are hard in America and I felt this would be a good way to make money and see a bit of the world. I've applied to some ESL jobs but they turned me away for no other reason than the color of my skin. I'm not looking for pity I'm just looking for someone to give me an opportunity to partake in the Korean ESL experience. I'm open to teaching in both public and private schools. And I'm open to all age levels. If possible I would also like for someone to reach me with a phone number in the US that I could call and not have to worry about overseas charges. |
How can you be sure you were turned away 'for no other reason than the color of (your) skin'? Isn't it possible they simply found a more experienced/qualified applicant? |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a decent, college educated Black man looking for a j |
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| gbw84 wrote: |
| Times are hard in America and I felt this would be a good way to make money and see a bit of the world. I've applied to some ESL jobs but they turned me away for no other reason than the color of my skin. I'm not looking for pity I'm just looking for someone to give me an opportunity to partake in the Korean ESL experience. I'm open to teaching in both public and private schools. And I'm open to all age levels. If possible I would also like for someone to reach me with a phone number in the US that I could call and not have to worry about overseas charges. |
How can you be sure you were turned away 'for no other reason than the color of (your) skin'? Isn't it possible they simply found a more experienced/qualified applicant? |
Why wouldn't you take his word for it? Everyone knows most hagwon owners prefer white teachers and frequently discriminate against non-white applicants. And what white person gets turned down from multiple hagwon jobs anyway? |
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Xuanzang
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a decent, college educated Black man looking for a j |
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[quote="redaxe"][quote="asylum seeker"]
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| Times are hard in America and I felt this would be a good way to make money and see a bit of the world. I've applied to some ESL jobs but they turned me away for no other reason than the color of my skin. I'm not looking for pity I'm just looking for someone to give me an opportunity to partake in the Korean ESL experience. I'm open to teaching in both public and private schools. And I'm open to all age levels. If possible I would also like for someone to reach me with a phone number in the US that I could call and not have to worry about overseas charges. |
You're going to have to work the emails and post resumes up like anyone else. Use email and have them call you (if necessary). |
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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a decent, college educated Black man looking for a j |
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| And what white person gets turned down from multiple hagwon jobs anyway? |
Have you looked at the freakiest waygook thread recently? 
And apparently this guy could no longer find employment in Korea:
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2008/04/160_22591.html |
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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:58 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a decent, college educated Black man looking for a j |
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| redaxe wrote: |
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| gbw84 wrote: |
| Times are hard in America and I felt this would be a good way to make money and see a bit of the world. I've applied to some ESL jobs but they turned me away for no other reason than the color of my skin. I'm not looking for pity I'm just looking for someone to give me an opportunity to partake in the Korean ESL experience. I'm open to teaching in both public and private schools. And I'm open to all age levels. If possible I would also like for someone to reach me with a phone number in the US that I could call and not have to worry about overseas charges. |
How can you be sure you were turned away 'for no other reason than the color of (your) skin'? Isn't it possible they simply found a more experienced/qualified applicant? |
Why wouldn't you take his word for it? Everyone knows most hagwon owners prefer white teachers and frequently discriminate against non-white applicants. And what white person gets turned down from multiple hagwon jobs anyway? |
I know it happens sometimes but it's still not good to make assumptions. Unless they told him directly (which I doubt) then it's entirely possible that there were other reasons. Remember the job market is tighter here than before and you likely will have more than one applicant for jobs now. |
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proustme
Joined: 13 Jun 2009
Location: Nowon-gu
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Unless they told him directly (which I doubt) then it's entirely possible that there were other reasons. |
Of course, it's a possibility. But from others' experiences of hearing "the principal wants a white teacher" and "the school wants a non-Asian teacher," along with advertisements reading "No gyopos," it's really be hoping against hope to give Korean employers/recruiters the benefit of the doubt. We all know this happens in Korea.
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ashland
Joined: 05 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| keep trying... and you will find a teaching job in korea eventually. |
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adventurrre
Joined: 18 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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I know for a fact a TON of hagwons do not hire because of skin color. A lot do not hire WHITE people if they're not good looking enough. I know this because I have a friend who is a recruiter with many hagwons and they tell her the standards for hiring -- good looking and North American. I tried to get my black friend hired and it was not even a question.
OP, stick to the public school system or kindergarten if you're looking for a job. You'll just be facing a whole lot of stonewalling and rejection in the hagwon department. |
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ldh2222
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
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| You're not gonna like to hear it, but... another country. |
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Bloopity Bloop
Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo
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| You're not gonna like to hear it, but... another country. |
Except SMOE hires plenty of black people. |
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curlygirl
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
Location: Pundang, Seohyeon dong
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I have met several black teachers here working for both EPIK and hagwons. Follow one of the previous poster's advice and contact a bunch of recruiters. Eventually, if you persist, you'll come up trumps. There is no harm whatsoever in trying. If you've already got an electronic CV prepared and scanned photos read to send to recruiters over the Internet you're good to go.
Persevere. |
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