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Korean Child Beater Avoids Jail

 
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aussieb



Joined: 08 Sep 2007
Location: Brisbane,Australia

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:34 pm    Post subject: Korean Child Beater Avoids Jail Reply with quote

I always thought that the laws of the particular country you were visiting or living in prevailed over the laws and customs of other countries.

Apparently this is not so in Australia! Cultural differences can be a defence? WTF??

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,26248782-952,00.html

The law is indeed an ass!
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Sooke



Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Location: korea

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, when we're here, we "must understand Korean culture." When they're in our home countries we "must understand Korean culture." Got it.

Same BS happened in Vancouver a couple of years back:
http://www.nospank.net/koreancp.htm#korea4
And the money shot: "The father didn't realize he was subject to Canadian laws governing assault, Mr. Wolf said, nor did he know that his form of discipline was illegal. The stress of the incident has taken a toll on the entire family, Mr. Wolfe said. The children's mother is now physically and emotionally ill and has returned to South Korea with the father to seek medical treatment." Bwa-ha-ha-hah!!!

But in all fairness, we get the same kind of leeway here. In fact, here is a recent article about me getting busted for drugs in Korea:

"Judge Park said the man was only 33 at the time and his sole experience of dealing with stress was how he had been brought up in Canada, which had involved extensive use of marijuana when dealing with stress or relaxing with friends.

Judge Park said he accepted the man was trying to ensure an awesome time but he had been misguided in his actions."
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sooke wrote:
So, when we're here, we "must understand Korean culture." When they're in our home countries we "must understand Korean culture." Got it.


But in all fairness, we get the same kind of leeway here. In fact, here is a recent article about me getting busted for drugs in Korea:

Judge Park said he accepted the man was trying to ensure an awesome time but he had been misguided in his actions."


Now you just need to return home to seek treatment for this trying time.
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calicoe



Joined: 23 Dec 2008
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I often come down hard on abuse cases, but I thought the judgement here was very good. They took the entire context of said abuse and intent into account, and didn't just react. However, I'm sure or at least hope that in is suspended sentence, he is required to attend anger management and parenting classes.
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Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Intent? Who abuses a kid and says "it's cuz I love the NFL"?

Quote:

"Judge David Searles described the offences as "horrendous" but because of the unique circumstances of the case, including cultural differences, he sentenced the man to a wholly suspended nine months jail."


It's horrendous, but it's ok, because Korea is special. He threatened to throw the kind into a dam for God's sake. That's beyond mod-edited up.


"I love my kid and want him/her to do well" is always the excuse, but it's just an excuse, just like "our culture is special and only people who don't understand it find fault with it".
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Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry but the logic here is just astounding:

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He said his client attended a Korean school where pupils were regularly beaten by coaches and teachers if they were seen to be not trying hard enough at sport.

"My client had no parenting skills to call on other than his own experiences and they include being beaten by his father with a rubber pipe," Mr Harrison added.


So basically if your daddy beat you as a kid you can beat whoever you want as long as you're some sort of guardian. That's funny, because that's pretty much the largest determining factor in people who physically or sexually abuse kids, it's rooted in the abuser's childhood. I guess Koreans are special though.

Unbelievable. This kind of stuff is why Korea will rarely get any respect from anybody who's had more than a passing acquaintance with the society. People are jerks worldwide, but Korea has made a niche out of using the word 'culture' as a shield when it's time to be responsible.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sooke wrote:
So, when we're here, we "must understand Korean culture." When they're in our home countries we "must understand Korean culture." Got it.

Same BS happened in Vancouver a couple of years back:
http://www.nospank.net/koreancp.htm#korea4
And the money shot: "The father didn't realize he was subject to Canadian laws governing assault, Mr. Wolf said, nor did he know that his form of discipline was illegal. The stress of the incident has taken a toll on the entire family, Mr. Wolfe said. The children's mother is now physically and emotionally ill and has returned to South Korea with the father to seek medical treatment." Bwa-ha-ha-hah!!!

But in all fairness, we get the same kind of leeway here. In fact, here is a recent article about me getting busted for drugs in Korea:

"Judge Park said the man was only 33 at the time and his sole experience of dealing with stress was how he had been brought up in Canada, which had involved extensive use of marijuana when dealing with stress or relaxing with friends.

Judge Park said he accepted the man was trying to ensure an awesome time but he had been misguided in his actions."



That BC case shouldn't have gone as far at it did. That stuff is pretty standard punishment for many people.

Here's another ridiculous case of overreacting.
http://www.leaderpost.com/health/Ontario+charged+with+spanking+year+public/1951185/story.html
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aussieb



Joined: 08 Sep 2007
Location: Brisbane,Australia

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Queensland, "context" & "intent" count for nothing when a child has been physically disciplined/abused by a parent or guardian.
A child attending school with ANY bruising can be reported by a teacher (or any other member of the public) to the child safety department as a suspected abuse case.
Child safety officers will interview the parents, the child, other siblings and the school regarding the incident and the general care provided by the parents. They advise the parents that an adverse finding may result in criminal charges for assault/neglect/abuse and that the child(& other siblings) may be removed from their custody.
Physical discipline of children (rightly or wrongly) is not tolerated in our society.
Normally additional sentencing conditions such as anger management etc are usually reported but have not been in this case.
This was not a one off, minor occurrence. He was guilty of one count of common assault and 6 counts of the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm over a period of time.
I have never seen "cultural differences" successfully used as an excuse for a series of serious assaults before.
This conduct, while commonplace in Korea is far from acceptable behavior in this country.
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Sooke



Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Location: korea

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:


That BC case shouldn't have gone as far at it did. That stuff is pretty standard punishment for many people.



Re: the Vancouver Case:
"For at least three hours on Jan. 19, the father, who cannot be identified under a court order, caned his son with hundreds of blows. At first, he kept his son on his knees. Then he forced him into a push-up position."

Yes, the court really ran amok. Whose father didn't cane them for several hours with hundreds of blows? Canadians are such wimps.
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