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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Rather her than Ton Koopman. |
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Koveras
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Why is that? I don't know heaps about the harpsichord and whoever plays it these days, but Koopman at least doesn't try to smash the thing. |
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Underwaterbob
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Location: In Cognito
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Koveras wrote: |
| Why is that? I don't know heaps about the harpsichord and whoever plays it these days, but Koopman at least doesn't try to smash the thing. |
You're supposed to. It's the only way to get dynamics out of it.
She does some less abrasive Scarlatti:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbW1nNBqVnI&feature=related |
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Koveras
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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That's just it, she sounds like a pianist playing a harpsichord. The harpsichord can't handle the pianoforte style of dynamics. It calls for a more sensitive style. She should use other means for the expression, like hesitations, rubato, ornamentation, and stops. The piece is partly to blame, I don't think it's very good.
Anyway, I should like to hear what's wrong with Koopman. |
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vincentmiser
Joined: 14 Jan 2009
Location: Everywhere
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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That Elaine lady has a lovely instrument.
Ton Koopman is a wonderful example of an ancient tradition that has been adapted to modern ears.
Nowadays, people are very quick to say 'ah, but that's not how the composer would have played it'. What absolute rubbish. In the Baroque, people were encouraged and 'dared' to embellish as much/little as they felt - the aim was to try and better the previous performance to show who was more masterful.
Bach himself was known to improvise himself out of one piece into another, without anyone noticing. |
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SeoulESLteacher09
Joined: 29 Mar 2009
Location: South Carolina
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:43 am Post subject: |
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| Moonlight Sonata is my favorite |
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Koveras
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| vincentmiser wrote: |
That Elaine lady has a lovely instrument.
Ton Koopman is a wonderful example of an ancient tradition that has been adapted to modern ears.
Nowadays, people are very quick to say 'ah, but that's not how the composer would have played it'. What absolute rubbish. In the Baroque, people were encouraged and 'dared' to embellish as much/little as they felt - the aim was to try and better the previous performance to show who was more masterful.
Bach himself was known to improvise himself out of one piece into another, without anyone noticing. |
Baroque is much less strict than some people believe, that however doesn't mean anything goes. For instance, performing contrapuntal pieces on a piano is usually a mistake, as is walloping the bass line on a harpsichord in an effort to imitate pianoforte dynamics. |
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Deep Thirteen
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Koveras
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larrysheinfeldstein
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larrysheinfeldstein
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larrysheinfeldstein
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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Chopin's nocturne in e-flat opus 9 number 2
beethoven's 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th piano concertos (especially 3 and 5) |
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Sushi
Joined: 24 Apr 2008
Location: North Korea
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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twinkle twinkle little star is nice
"Take the A train" best version i've heard is by "Duke Ellington" |
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vincentmiser
Joined: 14 Jan 2009
Location: Everywhere
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Twinkle twinkle was written by Mozart.
And did you know that Beethoven did a set of variations on 'God save the King'?
seriously...And it's good |
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