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enochyoo
Joined: 23 Aug 2009
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:07 pm Post subject: Which brings in the big $$$? AP, SAT, TOEFL, etc |
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I know private tutoring is prohibited in this forum for foreigners but I'm a korean national, so i can't join the AFEK website(no visa), so I don't know how to the mod will react to this thread.
For those people who are in my shoes(korean national or of korean decent), which subject/test is frequently wanted in private tutoring and/or private hawkwon setting? and how much do you usually charge/receive?
I ask because within the next year or so, I plan to make a 6month trip(w/o using a recruiter overseas) to make some money for grad school/loans from undergrad etc. 80 percent WORK and 20 percent FUN(u kno u kno)
Thank you in advance(corrected)
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Location: somewhere in China
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you in advanced |
Thank you in advance |
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enochyoo
Joined: 23 Aug 2009
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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err, thanks for pointing it out, how about some useful information rather than knit picking? |
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sofaking
Joined: 30 May 2008
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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enochyoo wrote: |
knit picking? |
NIT-PICKING
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nitpicking |
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enochyoo
Joined: 23 Aug 2009
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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hrm, looks like some people have way too much time on their hands |
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youtuber
Joined: 13 Sep 2009
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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OMG!~~^^
Like, you def need to be punchin da clock at Wonderland yo. Youz be swimmin' in the sejongs! |
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Goon-Yang
Joined: 28 May 2009 Location: Duh
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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A Korean national can't tutor unless they get a tutors licence.
You don't make that much doing privates anyways. There are way better ways to make the $$$ but most people wont sharez with you
It's a special secret shared only by white man. |
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fustiancorduroy
Joined: 12 Jan 2007
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:28 am Post subject: |
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You can make a lot of money doing all those things, but only if you have good credentials, such as teaching experience at a good foreign language high school/prep academy, high scores on those tests, a degree from a well known US university, and/or written textbooks about those tests. A combination of some or all these traits would be best. Which of them do you possess?
Also, people are nitpicking about your post because your grammatical and spelling mistakes indicate that you lack the very strong native-level English skills and attention to detail required to procure and (this is important) maintain students. If you don't have the ability to do well on the test, if you don't prepare adequately, if you make grammatical errors, and if you show any lack of competence in any way, you will quickly lose credibility with your students and therefore will not be able to keep their business. To teach private lessons for these tests, you need credentials AND have to nitpick about the details. |
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halfmanhalfbiscuit
Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:53 am Post subject: |
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No-one pays in $ |
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enochyoo
Joined: 23 Aug 2009
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:34 am Post subject: |
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fustiancorduroy wrote: |
You can make a lot of money doing all those things, but only if you have good credentials, such as teaching experience at a good foreign language high school/prep academy, high scores on those tests, a degree from a well known US university, and/or written textbooks about those tests. A combination of some or all these traits would be best. Which of them do you possess?
Also, people are nitpicking about your post because your grammatical and spelling mistakes indicate that you lack the very strong native-level English skills and attention to detail required to procure and (this is important) maintain students. If you don't have the ability to do well on the test, if you don't prepare adequately, if you make grammatical errors, and if you show any lack of competence in any way, you will quickly lose credibility with your students and therefore will not be able to keep their business. To teach private lessons for these tests, you need credentials AND have to nitpick about the details. |
Thank you, this is the kind of post I've been waiting for. As far as my credentials, I've been teaching at a hawkwon in the states for 4 years. I'm familiar with the new SAT, scoring above 2200+. My degree does not involve education but I've received it from a university known for its field in my degree. With about a year to prep before leaving, I wanted to know if I should be studying for something that is �hot� right now. Your information was very helpful.
When I�m online, I type like dis or this depending on how formal or informal the situation is. This is a public forum, so I didn't think people would critique my grammar and be absolutely useless in providing the information I needed (exception of some of course). |
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youtuber
Joined: 13 Sep 2009
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Tweens typ lik dis. |
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madoka

Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Which brings in the big $$$? AP, SAT, TOEFL, etc |
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enochyoo wrote: |
I ask because within the next year or so, I plan to make a 6month trip(w/o using a recruiter overseas) to make some money for grad school/loans from undergrad etc. 80 percent WORK and 20 percent FUN(u kno u kno) |
Personally I would not bother. $800 for airfare and ??? for housing. How many weeks/months before you build up a client base if at all? Why should Korean parents start giving you all this money if you have no track record as far as they are concerned? There's already plenty of people/companies doing this who are established brands, have a reputation and aren't going to disappear in a few months. Hell, they already have a mistrust of gyopos teaching their kids English - a mistrust that has no small basis in truth. You'll be heavily dependent on relatives to find your initial clients for you. Do you know you can depend on them?After you start proving your worth to clients, you'll probably be 3-5 months into your trip. In short, if you're only going to be there for 6 months, you may never recoup your costs.
If you're any good, you can make more money in the U.S. doing these things, especially in the short-term. Plus, there are no laws you have to worry about. |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Funniest story I ever heard in relation to the OP was from a friend working in media here in Seoul. Someone at a bar had asked my friend what type of work he did and whether or not it was lucrative. Then, the guy had the nuts to just ask to be introduced to someone so that he could 'get into that type of work.'
My friend just told the guy, 'Good luck,' and, 'No offense, but on the outside chance you'd be any good what-so-ever, why would I want to invite competition!'
In short, if you want to come over and try to make some coin, then by all means feel free. However, don't expect to hit the ground running, making as much as someone who has been here for a length of time building contacts, skills, and a reputation. Doesn't work like that, and for obvious reasons, it shouldn't.
Good luck, OP. We've all been there at one point or another. Wish you the best. |
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enochyoo
Joined: 23 Aug 2009
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Great advice, thanks for your inputs.
I should have explained this earlier, one of the main reasons I'm doing this is to explore my culture as well, although I was born in Korea, I was raised in the states.
As for a client base, like you mentioned, I have relatives/cousins etc. in Korea who I hope to get connected with. Many of them have children from elementary to high school, so if I teach them well, I hope to get referrals.
Don't get me wrong, I make good money tutoring SAT here in the states(40-60 an hour), however, I really wanna experience a different culture, and ultimately a different life.
If things don't pan out, I hope to do a mix of public/private. |
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ThingsComeAround

Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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I have a friend in a similar situation as yourself, however she unfortunately came over and did not complete her degree (against my advice). But since she was a friend from home, and I knew people that asked me to do privates, they were sent her way...
six months is an incredibly short time to get any "cultural learning" done. If you want to hang with family, that's great. But have a realistic goal if you are going to look for serious work, as we all know, Korean people pay serious money for it |
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