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ESL Milk "Everyday
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
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This happened to me as well.
At first I thought it was because I was new to the school and somebody had forgotten, but then they got a new lunch lady, and her picture was up on the wall immediately-- while I wasn't even asked.
I suppose in a way it sort of hurt, but in a bigger way, I don't care. It's much easier to resign myself to being an outsider than to suffer through field trips, sports days, staff parties, etc... |
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whitealum29
Joined: 30 Aug 2009
Location: korea
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:26 am Post subject: |
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| Get over it, we're all here doing bullsh$t jobs for decent money. If a bunch of Mexicans (who couldn't speak a lick of english) were hired to teach spanish in the U.S, I'm sure there would be quite a number of people who feel the same animosity towards english "teachers" here in Korea. |
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son of coco
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:50 am Post subject: |
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It's not animosity towards English teachers, it's towards foreigners...I'm assuming some of the people in the street don't know for sure we are teachers. Not everyone displays this animosity obviously, but I highly doubt being an English teacher has anything to do with it.
It's to be expected though when you have a country of people who have barely left the place and thus, by default, think it's the greatest place in the world.
As for the topic itself, I was in the photo but wasn't told it was happening so am there in jeans and a hoodie while the Korean teachers are dressed nicely. I did get left out of the teacher's day ceremony where everyone got a flower and some other rubbish. My co-teacher walked straight past me and then told me when I got back that I should have gone up there too.
By this stage though I knew full well he was a **** and was generally unconcerned with what anyone at school thought of me.  |
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son of coco
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:56 am Post subject: |
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| son of coco wrote: |
It's not animosity towards English teachers, it's towards foreigners...I'm assuming some of the people in the street don't know for sure we are teachers. Not everyone displays this animosity obviously, but I highly doubt being an English teacher has anything to do with it.
It's to be expected though when you have a country of people who have barely left the place and thus, by default, think it's the greatest place in the world.
You're right about the jobs though...they're generally a joke and if you get a good school it can be a cruisy year. The Koreans have created this situation though, not us. To have a system which is poorly set up and to have to teach with co-teachers who can make your life hell is a failure on their part, not ours. I doubt too many people come here with the intention of not trying to do a good job, but the attitudes of many people you have to deal with and the little hassles they like to throw your way just because they can means they destroy any chance of what you're doing being meaningful anyway.
It's a bullshit job because that's how they've set it up, it's not our fault.
As for the topic itself, I was in the photo but wasn't told it was happening so am there in jeans and a hoodie while the Korean teachers are dressed nicely. I did get left out of the teacher's day ceremony where everyone got a flower and some other rubbish. My co-teacher walked straight past me and then told me when I got back that I should have gone up there too.
By this stage though I knew full well he was a **** and was generally unconcerned with what anyone at school thought of me. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:09 am Post subject: Re: I shouldn't be bothered, but I am. |
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Everyone was invited to the school picture except me.
It was kind of a stake in the heart for me. |
I happily trade "Not in the group picture" for "Not attending soju dinners". |
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Bog Roll
Joined: 07 Oct 2009
Location: JongnoGuru country. RIP mate.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:31 am Post subject: |
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| whitealum29 wrote: |
| Get over it, we're all here doing bullsh$t jobs for decent money. If a bunch of Mexicans (who couldn't speak a lick of english) were hired to teach spanish in the U.S, I'm sure there would be quite a number of people who feel the same animosity towards english "teachers" here in Korea. |
Are you in Korea yet sonny jim?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! 
So. Shut. Up. You. Cretin. |
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proustme
Joined: 13 Jun 2009
Location: Nowon-gu
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:29 am Post subject: |
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| Why would you wear a hoodie to school? Public school? |
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TL
Joined: 30 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| proustme wrote: |
| Why would you wear a hoodie to school? Public school? |
I'm wondering also. Are the other teachers dressed casually at school as well? |
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winterfall
Joined: 21 May 2009
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: I shouldn't be bothered, but I am. |
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| Zulethe wrote: |
I know that I'm not considered part of anything here. I'm just some waygook that the school is forced to put up with.
So there was picture day. Everyone was invited to the school picture except me.
Kind of like the school saying to me: You mean absolutely nothing to us. |
I wouldn't put it like that. Your a contractor not someone they're forced to tolerate. After all public schools have to fill out an application to get us.
And my school is weird. We've got another contractor. Besides me but, not a FT. Signs a similar contract to us too but, once again doesn't teach conversation. anyway that contractor isn't in the school picture either |
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calicoe
Joined: 23 Dec 2008
Location: South Korea
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Yeah, I saw them out there taking pictures, but I wasn't asked. However, in my first semester, I went to a studio with my Ko-teach and had pictures taken, so maybe they just use those. I'm kinda grateful not to have to run out there and deal with it, though.
I know the feeling though, OP. I get depressed during Teacher's Day. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| My school made me be part of the picture, even though I didn't want to be. I admit, though, I'd have been a bit hurt if instead they had discluded me. |
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Triban
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| TL wrote: |
| proustme wrote: |
| Why would you wear a hoodie to school? Public school? |
I'm wondering also. Are the other teachers dressed casually at school as well? |
Sometimes I dress up, sometimes I wear hoodies. So do all the other teachers at my school. |
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detourne_me
Joined: 26 May 2006
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| My school made me be part of the picture, even though I didn't want to be. I admit, though, I'd have been a bit hurt if instead they had discluded me. |
You'd have been hurt if they told you about it?
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Main Entry: disclude
Part of Speech: v
Definition: to disclose, make known |
Sorry about being trollish. Just having never seen the word used like that before, I'm sure you meant excluded. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| detourne_me wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| My school made me be part of the picture, even though I didn't want to be. I admit, though, I'd have been a bit hurt if instead they had discluded me. |
You'd have been hurt if they told you about it?
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Main Entry: disclude
Part of Speech: v
Definition: to disclose, make known |
Sorry about being trollish. Just having never seen the word used like that before, I'm sure you meant excluded. |
You're right, I should have said exclude. I knew disclude was a word, but to be honest, I've never actually seen it used, so I had assumed it was another opposite of include. Thanks for the correction. |
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Moldy Rutabaga
Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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What a depressing way to hear that your services are considered a short-term nuisance with next to zero importance. The copy-boy and the Tekbay deliverer are in the picture and you are not. Sorry to hear. No one should blame you for feeling demotivated.
At the last university position I had, government or other academic officials would visit to meet people in the program -- except, of course, the foreign instructors who taught the entire program, some of which spoke passable Korean. It doesn't go away entirely at the university level.
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