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School wants to know now if I'll renew for FEB (I'm unsure)

 
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proustme



Joined: 13 Jun 2009
Location: Nowon-gu

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:12 pm    Post subject: School wants to know now if I'll renew for FEB (I'm unsure) Reply with quote

I really like my public school. They want to know by next Thursday whether I'll renew. A document from GEPIK requires notification immediately.

It's so strange how it works here. In my mind, my school should tell me whether or not I'll be offered the job for next year. However, the way it works here in the public school system is that a committee is formed and judges whether you'll be hired for the next year. However the committee doesn't schedule a meeting until you say you want the job next year.

All that aside, I want to check out other places and see if I can get job offers. I just didn't want to decide right now where I'll be working come February.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds kind of early for renewal talk to me. some schools ask this early, but i think most wait until december to worry about renewing the NET. they might just be pressuring you so you have less time to make an informed decision and size up your options.

you could be honest with them and tell them that you really don't know and need more time to think about it. see if they can give you more time. i really doubt there's a committee that meets to decide your renewal though, it's probably just an informal 'yes' or 'no' deal by the principal, vp, and your co-teachers.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most schools ask you on the spot and expect an immediate answer. If you say you are unsure they will assume you are not interested. That's how things are done in Korea. If you are unsure it's best just to say "yes" and make your real decision when it comes to contact time.
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withnail



Joined: 13 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Most schools ask you on the spot and expect an immediate answer. If you say you are unsure they will assume you are not interested. That's how things are done in Korea. If you are unsure it's best just to say "yes" and make your real decision when it comes to contact time.


Agreed! I think it's better to make yes noises rather than say you're not sure.
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kerbythepurplecow



Joined: 02 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also GEPIK. My co knows I'm unsure. He's known I'm unsure for the months the principal has been forcing him to ask. So here we've got this mandatory whatever from GEPIK and I'm still unsure.
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loyfriend



Joined: 03 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well even though your school is asking now for Febuary, I concider you lucky. My contract ends December 17th and I am at a public school. I had no talk of asking of I am staying or going. Paydays are on the 25th of each month, so really I only have 1 officail payday left.

When I ask my regular teachers if I stay or go they have no idea, the princibles I never talk to as he only knows Korean. So I have been applying for places outside of Korea. I sure if I do stay and renew the contract at this high school I be bringing in 3-3.5m no problem.
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Hamlet



Joined: 18 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you remember when they (EPIC, GEPIC, SMOE, or whoever it was) hired an extra hundred teachers and then told them at the last minute that they didn't really have jobs, even though some had already bought airline tickets, quit jobs back home, etc.? They were covering their bases, making sure they had all their positions filled. They didn't care about anything else--just did what was in their best interest.

That's what you need to do! Tell them, "Yes, I love this place and I want to work here for another year!" Then go about looking for a better job. If you find one, tell them that you changed your mind and are leaving. If you don't find one, stay there for another year--just do what's in your best interest.
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Principal told me to renew two months in; I said I was flattered, but it's a little too soon for Sarang Hae.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the Korean way.

Our university does the same thing. Only they said they'd think about what they want to do, then notify us on December 31. They also don't present us with an actual contract until a few weeks before the semester (and even then, it's not yet signed by the president).

This year, I told them:

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Unfortunately, it might be in the university's best interest to offer us finalized, signed contracts far earlier than a few weeks before school starts, as has been done in the past. Other schools have pushed up their hiring time, and as of last year, have begun taking resumes in November [note: actually I noticed many are hiring NOW]. Currently, our teachers don't know if**** University wants to keep us, or what the new contract will look like. If we have to wait until December 31 to find out if we've been approved, and wait even longer for a contract, then teachers may feel forced to apply for jobs elsewhere in order to be assured of a position.

The current system of asking us if we want to stay without providing an actual signed contract puts our department at risk of losing teachers to other schools a short time before the semester begins. In that case, it's bad for the rest of us because we have to scramble to fill in the extra hours (as happened at least twice in the past since I've been here). To avoid the uncomfortable possibility of a teacher saying "no" to the school's revised contract in favor of a better offer, the school should start offering actual, signed, (not preliminary) contracts far earlier. That is my opinion.

We have seen many changes within the department and the university this past semester. For example, we have a totally new administration, have lost the privilege of having private offices, have been asked to teach more in the English Lounge, etc.. There are concerns about what the next contract will look like when we are asked to sign it. Personally, I would just rather know that *** University isn't planning any major changes to my contract, and just sign it so I don't have to worry about it.



I wrote a bit much, IMHO. Anyway, what will be will be.
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kerbythepurplecow



Joined: 02 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has this become more widespread or still just the handful of us? I'm currently being questioned daily. Usually several times.
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jonbowman88



Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Location: gwangju, s korea

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YEah Korea is silly, my wife is a korean teacher working on 1 year contracts. She was working at a school and would have liked to renew, but was never given the option. Then when they discovered that she was interviewing for another job after her contract was over, they acted all insulted and basically said "we would have renewed you, but you're interviewing? ok we'll find a new teacher, and by the way since you're interviewing we're not gonna offer you another contract"

Ridiculous? yes
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loyfriend



Joined: 03 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My public school hasnt said anything to me. I only have 6 weeksto go. You would think they would ask as flying home mid december is much more expensive to buy a ticket at the last minute vs say 2-3 months in advance.

I remember last year tickets were close to 1800.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

loyfriend wrote:
My public school hasnt said anything to me. I only have 6 weeksto go. You would think they would ask as flying home mid december is much more expensive to buy a ticket at the last minute vs say 2-3 months in advance.

I remember last year tickets were close to 1800.


Why do you worry about the ticket price when you're not paying? As long as your school is paying, just get the most expensive direct economy fare possible. Laughing
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