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bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:35 am Post subject: NHS: Pupils have a right to good sex |
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Now here's a government policy I can agree with!
Pupils told they have a 'right' to a good sex life:
That's the advice for youngsters from the NHS
By Daniel Martin
Last updated at 11:10 PM on 12th July 2009
The NHS is telling school pupils they have a 'right' to an enjoyable sex life and that it is good for their health.
A Health Service leaflet says experts concentrate too much on the need for safe sex and loving relationships, and not enough on the pleasure it can bring.
But family campaigners last night condemned the guidance, saying it encouraged underage sex and could increase rates of sexually-transmitted diseases.
Under the heading 'an orgasm a day keeps the doctor away', the leaflet says: 'Health promotion experts advocate five portions of fruit and veg a day and 30 minutes physical activity three times a week. What about sex or masturbation twice a week?'
The advice, which also claims regular sex is good for cardiovascular health, has been circulated to parents, teachers and youth workers.
It came to light just a week after it emerged that teenagers who took part in a �6million Government initiative to reduce teenage pregnancies were more than twice as likely to fall pregnant as other girls.
The scheme tried to persuade girls not to get pregnant by handing out condoms and teaching them about sex.
The NHS leaflet has been drawn up by Sheffield primary care trust and is entitled Pleasure.
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Street Magic
Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Yup. Good on them. The morality wars have been lost miserably. It's time for damage control. Condoms and sex education on this front, sterile needles and pill verification resources like http://www.dancesafe.org/ on the "drug" control front and the developed world be well on its way to becoming a full set of civilized societies. Then again, everyone would get all antsy and existentially anxious without the comforting fantasy of their scapegoat victims magically causing all the world's suffering through their failure to properly deprive themselves. |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008 Location: Marakesh
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Morality police nothing. It starts at home. I don't have a kid not because of what I learned in school but from what my parents taught me. I don't hook up with random people not because of what I learned in school but from the example my parents/older cousins/family set for me.
Anyone who thinks that these government programs can be effective is just fooling themselves. People who come from solid families that ingrain solid moral ideas and healthy attitudes towards sex will do well; those that rely on the government...  |
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Fox

Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: NHS: Pupils have a right to good sex |
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bacasper wrote: |
The advice, which also claims regular sex is good for cardiovascular health, has been circulated to parents, teachers and youth workers. |
It's probably good advice. |
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Street Magic
Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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nathanrutledge wrote: |
Morality police nothing. It starts at home. I don't have a kid not because of what I learned in school but from what my parents taught me. I don't hook up with random people not because of what I learned in school but from the example my parents/older cousins/family set for me.
Anyone who thinks that these government programs can be effective is just fooling themselves. People who come from solid families that ingrain solid moral ideas and healthy attitudes towards sex will do well; those that rely on the government... :? |
I assume that was addressed to my post. I don't think anyone should be policing morality. That was my post's point. Policing morality will always be a doomed endeavor and it doesn't even have the benefit of being a noble one given that anyone who's looked into the history of sex and drug laws will know what interests were really being taken care of through prohibitive legislation. Even parents should probably give up on trying to make their kids live certain kinds of lives because kids and people in general will pretty much do what they want. And the notion that everything bad that happens to everyone else is because everyone else did something wrong is equal parts comforting and delusional.
More often than not, victims are just victims, the world is unpredictable, and there's nothing significant separating the healthy and well off from the sick and suffering. Rather than preemptively punish people for behaviors associated with unpleasant situations, the role of government or volunteer activists or even families in trying to keep their kids safe should be focused on just that: providing the resources most useful for promoting safety.
Instead of promoting abstinence only or Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" BS, kids should have access to the facts and the tools (condoms, STD testing, clean needles, LD 50s for recreational substances with overdose potential, etc.) to minimize the dangers associated with known risky behaviors. Not any different from the information and resources available for those who decide they want to drive a car, join the military, or play a full contact professional sport, aside from the massive amount of work it will take to reverse the history of prejudice and marginalization targeting those who prefer the sexually taboo and those who prefer the "wrong" recreational substances. |
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Moldy Rutabaga

Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Ansan, Korea
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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We police morality every day. When we say that you aren't allowed to kill people, we are making a moral decision for the public. The issue is more like what morality should be taught or limits on its teaching.
My feeling on this is that sex education ought to be taught on a practical basis. Abstinance education clearly hasn't worked statistically. What has generally worked is education on the consequences of irresponsible promiscuous sex (disease and pregnancy) combined with education about birth control and sexual violence. The morality part can be an indirect part of discussion, but generally morality needs to come from parents and not from teachers or cheesy government advertisements. But it's no better to tell children they have a right to sex. Do we need teenagers who feel more entitled?
The British government's pamphlets seem like something out of Brave New World to me, where the government is constantly pushing people to have casual sex so that they won't think about their lives or get attached to others. It might be better if the authorities stayed out of the classrooms and did what the British do best, such as arresting homeowners for striking burglars.
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bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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nathanrutledge wrote: |
Morality police nothing. It starts at home. I don't have a kid not because of what I learned in school but from what my parents taught me. I don't hook up with random people not because of what I learned in school but from the example my parents/older cousins/family set for me.
Anyone who thinks that these government programs can be effective is just fooling themselves. People who come from solid families that ingrain solid moral ideas and healthy attitudes towards sex will do well; those that rely on the government...  |
The policy is good for those children who fall through the cracks and don't learn it at home. The information they receive is better than nothing, but still is no match for good parental role modeling. |
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Street Magic
Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Moldy Rutabaga wrote: |
We police morality every day. When we say that you aren't allowed to kill people, we are making a moral decision for the public. The issue is more like what morality should be taught or limits on its teaching. |
When it comes to crimes like murder, I'd say you get into the distinction between this and that. There are certainly those who would claim all laws are a matter of preference alone though. |
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