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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Before you get all excited... read the 'fine print' (not published by said bastion of journalistic integrity).  |
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blackjack

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: anyang
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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cruisemonkey wrote: |
Before you get all excited... read the 'fine print' (not published by said bastion of journalistic integrity).  |
What is the fine print?
as I understand it, five consecutive years, a language test and a cultural test |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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I qualify right now. I am considering this. Another passport would always be helpful. |
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sigmundsmith
Joined: 22 Nov 2007
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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cruisemonkey wrote: |
Before you get all excited... read the 'fine print' (not published by said bastion of journalistic integrity).  |
Can you mention what the fine print is?
If this is the case where an ESL instructor has been consecutively in the country for the required 5 years, are they automatically eligable to become a Korean citizen even if they are not married to a Korean national?
Further, if the above is the case is true would an ESL instructor need not go through all the current procedures and required paperwork that are in place at the moment? |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Should I get one?
That'll add to my passport collection and I currently have three! |
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Smee

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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This was interesting:
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Cha denied a recent media report that the ministry is considering demanding women complete a two-year volunteer assignment or military service on the condition of granting dual citizenship.
"Given that women are exempted from military duty in Korea, such a decision would provoke a strong backlash," Cha said. "The measure was once briefly discussed a long time ago, but the government is no longer considering it." |
Good idea since compulsory military service is an unfair burden on Korean men, but since Korean women aren't forced to leave home for two years to do any kind of service, it'd be rather unfair to force foreign women to do the same. |
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big_fella1
Joined: 08 Dec 2005
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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cruisemonkey wrote: |
Before you get all excited... read the 'fine print' (not published by said bastion of journalistic integrity).  |
Good point we don't know what the fine print will be as this is a plan not a law yet.
I wonder if I would take dual nationality if it was offered as Korea considers it's laws apply extraterritorially. Things like smoking a joint in Amsterdam are illegal for Koreans.
For my unborn daughter at least she will be able to keep both her Australian and Korean citizenships at the very least.
We will have to wait and see the bill. But it is definately a step in the right direction. |
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raewon
Joined: 16 Jun 2009
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:24 pm Post subject: questions |
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The only requirement for them will be making a pledge that they will fulfill their duties as a Korean and give up the privileges as a foreigner while living here. |
1. Although I'm not an "exceptionally talented foreigner" by any stretch of the imagination - what privileges are they referring to?
2. There was no mention of whether or not the five years of consecutive residency had to be under the same employer. Hmmm.....
3. There was no mention of foreigners having to meet an income requirement.
4. Did I misread the article and miss 2. and 3.? |
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youtuber
Joined: 13 Sep 2009
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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There is a lot of reading between the lines here.
1.Korea wants foreigners to vow
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not to exercise rights as a foreign national while staying here. |
Ie if you get convicted unfairly, don't expect Canada to bail your asss out.
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Cha denied a recent media report that the ministry is considering demanding women complete a two-year volunteer assignment or military service on the condition of granting dual citizenship |
So I guess we can assume that a Canadian man would be expected to join the military in some fashion. After all, there is a compulsory 2 year term for all Korean men.
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Foreigners who have maintained an address in Korea for five consecutive years or more will also be eligible for dual citizenship |
I wonder if this means that you have to stay at the exact same residence for five years? Probably not. But maybe.
4. For Exceptionally Talented Foreigners,
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The only requirement for them will be making a pledge that they will fulfill their duties as a Korean and give up the privileges as a foreigner while living here |
I am not too keen on the whole "giving up of my foreign privilges" statement. What exactly does that mean?
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Most migrant workers from developing countries are allowed to work in Korea for only three years, making it very difficult for them to meet the five-year residency requirement for Korean citizenship |
Perhaps a new rule will be enacted for ESL teachers? If they are going to allow immigration, they need to take the good and the bad, just like the west. But I have a feeling they want to be picky, which won't go over well.
All in all, this is a huge step forward for Korea. I actually can't believe that they are considering this. The main benefits are equal access to supplementary health insurance and more opportunities for investment.
You should really consult with your home country first before gaining Korean citizenship.
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youtuber
Joined: 13 Sep 2009
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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tzechuk wrote: |
Should I get one?
That'll add to my passport collection and I currently have three! |
Um....congratulations on your achievement?  |
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Perusal of the �white paper� (proposed legislation) leads to the conclusion it�s all �smoke & mirrors� pandering to international perceptions. There are �loop holes� big enough to sail the galaxy through (with room to spare)� of course, on the scale of the universe, our galaxy is tiny. |
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blackjack

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: anyang
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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cruisemonkey wrote: |
Perusal of the ‘white paper’ (proposed legislation) leads to the conclusion it’s all ‘smoke & mirrors’ pandering to international perceptions. There are ‘loop holes’ big enough to sail the galaxy through (with room to spare)… of course, on the scale of the universe, our galaxy is tiny. |
link? |
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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There's no 'link' - the Ks aren't stupid. |
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IlIlNine
Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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tzechuk wrote: |
Should I get one?
That'll add to my passport collection and I currently have three! |
Per the article:
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Currently, Korea does not permit multiple nationalities for either its citizens or foreigners. |
Better keep quiet about that, there ...  |
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