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mises
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| $21b.. Oh my. |
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Pluto
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Grass -The History of Cannabis directed by Ron Man and narrated by Woody Harrelson. A few years old, but still pretty informative. Interesting how this "problem" has made the government grow bigger and bigger and and even more and more abusive. Interesting that the war on marijuana didn't start from a fear of marijuana itself, rather it started with a fear of Mexicans. Much like cocaine's prohibition was started by a fear of turning southern black men into uncontrollable beasts. It is an informative movie at any rate.
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-5024743677399496923&hl=en |
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mises
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The federal government is not going to pull back on its efforts to curtail marijuana farming operations, Gil Kerlikowske, director of the White House's Office of National Drug Control Policy, said Wednesday in Fresno.
The nation's drug czar, who viewed a foothill marijuana farm on U.S. Forest Service land with state and local officials earlier Wednesday, said the federal government will not support legalizing marijuana.
"Legalization is not in the president's vocabulary, and it's not in mine," he said.
Kerlikowske said he can understand why legislators are talking about taxing marijuana cultivation to help cash-strapped government agencies in California. But the federal government views marijuana as a harmful and addictive drug, he said.
"Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit," Kerlikowske said in downtown Fresno while discussing Operation SOS -- Save Our Sierra -- a multiagency effort to eradicate marijuana in eastern Fresno County. |
http://www.fresnobee.com/local/story/1553061.html
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Pluto
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joeyjoejoe
Joined: 24 Sep 2006
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Law Enforcement Against Prohibition.
http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php
Founded on March 16, 2002, LEAP is made up of current and former members of law enforcement who believe the existing drug policies have failed in their intended goals of addressing the problems of crime, drug abuse, addiction, juvenile drug use, stopping the flow of illegal drugs into this country and the internal sale and use of illegal drugs. By fighting a war on drugs the government has increased the problems of society and made them far worse. A system of regulation rather than prohibition is a less harmful, more ethical and a more effective public policy.
The mission of LEAP is to reduce the multitude of unintended harmful consequences resulting from fighting the war on drugs and to lessen the incidence of death, disease, crime, and addiction by ultimately ending drug prohibition.
LEAP's goals are:
1. To educate the public, the media, and policy makers, to the failure of current drug policy by presenting a true picture of the history, causes and effects of drug abuse and the crimes related to drug prohibition and
2. To restore the public's respect for law enforcement, which has been greatly diminished by its involvement in imposing drug prohibition. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:24 am Post subject: |
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The federal government is not going to pull back on its efforts to curtail marijuana farming operations, Gil Kerlikowske, director of the White House's Office of National Drug Control Policy, said Wednesday in Fresno.
The nation's drug czar, who viewed a foothill marijuana farm on U.S. Forest Service land with state and local officials earlier Wednesday, said the federal government will not support legalizing marijuana.
"Legalization is not in the president's vocabulary, and it's not in mine," he said.
Kerlikowske said he can understand why legislators are talking about taxing marijuana cultivation to help cash-strapped government agencies in California. But the federal government views marijuana as a harmful and addictive drug, he said.
"Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit," Kerlikowske said in downtown Fresno while discussing Operation SOS -- Save Our Sierra -- a multiagency effort to eradicate marijuana in eastern Fresno County. |
http://www.fresnobee.com/local/story/1553061.html |
Would it be accurate to say that Kerlikowske has flipped on this - his lid as well as his position? |
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Pluto
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| the head of the Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP), a.k.a. the drug czar, who in 1998 was mandated by Congress to oppose legislation that would legalize, decriminalize, or medicalize marijuana, or redirect anti-trafficking funding into treatment. And the drug czar has also�here's where the lying comes in�been prohibited from funding research that might give credence to any of the above. |
http://www.motherjones.com/toc/2009/07/editors-note
The Drug Czar is mandated by Congress to say such things, ridiculous. -- Rule of Law everyone! |
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mises
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/07/politics/washingtonpost/main5368594.shtml?tag=cbsnewsSidebarArea;topnews
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Homegrown Pot Threatens Mexican Cartels
Washington Post: American Mom-and-Pop Marijuana Growers Are Cutting Into Profits of Foreign Traffickers
Stiff competition from thousands of mom-and-pop marijuana farmers in the United States threatens the bottom line for powerful Mexican drug organizations in a way that decades of arrests and seizures have not, according to law enforcement officials and pot growers in the United States and Mexico. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:23 am Post subject: |
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/07/politics/washingtonpost/main5368594.shtml?tag=cbsnewsSidebarArea;topnews
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Homegrown Pot Threatens Mexican Cartels
Washington Post: American Mom-and-Pop Marijuana Growers Are Cutting Into Profits of Foreign Traffickers
Stiff competition from thousands of mom-and-pop marijuana farmers in the United States threatens the bottom line for powerful Mexican drug organizations in a way that decades of arrests and seizures have not, according to law enforcement officials and pot growers in the United States and Mexico. |
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Maybe when the government is finally broke and they can no longer afford to pay the cops or jailers they will finally re-legalize drugs and allow liberty- recognizing the right of rational adults to choose their own medications and vices. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| We should be careful to note that there is a difference between conservative opinion on this issue and Republican opinion. Tucker Carlson, Ron Paul, and Vox Day all have expressed a desire to reform current drug policy and decriminalize pot. |
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pkang0202
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Fun article.
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| So here's my question: Gov. Schwarzenegger -- as well as U.S. Senator Jim Webb -- have called for a "debate" on whether or not to legalize the use and distribution of cannabis for adults. Webster's dictionary defines "debate" as "to argue opposing views." But as Walters' comments so adeptly illustrate, the opposing side has no actual "views," it only has lies and seven decades of bullsh*t. |
I don't want to be a non-American partisan, but do these fu%king Republicans every discuss anything with honesty? Lies lies lies. From end to end. |
Jim Webb is a Democrat. Also, The Governator is only Republican in name. |
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mises
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:41 am Post subject: |
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http://www.rollingstone.com/nationalaffairs/index.php/2009/11/03/drug-war-madness-grassleys-gag-rule/
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Sen. Jim Webb (D-Virginia) has bravely proposed legislation to create a Blue Ribbon commission to conduct an 18-month, �top-to-bottom� review of America�s criminal justice system with the goal of bringing U.S. incarceration rates in line with the rest of the civilized world.
The commission is to make sweeping recommendations for reform, and is tasked in particular with developing proposals to �restructure our approach to drug policy.�
Enter unreconstructed drug warrior Sen. Chuck Grassley, who has released the text of an amendment that would ensure the commission not reach any conclusions that threaten 40 years of failure. The commission would be prohibited, thanks to Grassley, from examining any �policies that favor decriminalization of violations of the Controlled Substances Act or the legalization of any controlled substances.�
Below, the text of Grassley�s gag rule:
AMENDMENT intended to be proposed by Mr. GRASSLEY
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SEC. ll. RESTRICTIONS ON AUTHORITY.
The Commission shall have no authority to make findings related to current Federal, State, and local criminal justice policies and practices or reform recommendations that involve, support, or otherwise discuss the decriminalization of any offense under the Controlled Substances Act or the legalization of any controlled substance listed under the Controlled Substances Act.
Jack Cole, a retired undercover narcotics officer who now heads the group Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP) tells Rolling Stone that �Senator Grassley�s censorship amendment would block what Senator Webb is trying to achieve with this bill. All along, Senator Webb has said that in the effort to fix our broken criminal justice system �nothing should be off the table.� That should include the obvious solution of ending the �drug war� as a way to solve the unintended problems caused by that failed policy,� says Cole.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/03/national/main5515569.shtml?tag=contentMain;contentBody
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A New Era for U.S. Drug Policy?
Jim Webb Says America's Justice System Is Broken and Drug Policy Is Largely to Blame; Is Portugal's Liberal Approach a Model? |
^ A good article. Too long to post here. |
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bucheon bum
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So today I was riding with a US Marshal from Nebraska. He told me that when he became a Marshal 20+ years ago, his office in Lincoln (NB) had 5 prisoners. 10 years ago, 300-400. Now? EIGHT HUNDERD. In a city of 250,000 people. W-T-F?
I asked him how many of the prisoners were there on drug charges. His response, "Honestly, I can't think of any there NOT related to drugs. Well, besides some illegal immigrants." An employee from a South Carolina office said it was the same in her area.
What a freaking waste of money. BTW, the budget for housing all those prisoners nation-wide? Around 1.3 billion dollars this year. And that's just for the ones the Marshals "house" (i.e. those who are pending trial or having their case tried). I have no idea what the budget is for the Bureau of Prisons. |
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