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Does this person know who you are? (job ad)
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raewon



Joined: 16 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:12 pm    Post subject: Does this person know who you are? (job ad) Reply with quote

A current job ad on this cafe:

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Scholar Academy is a growing SAT I test prep academy located in Apgu Jung Dong. We are looking for an ESTABLISHED SAT I Writing Teacher. We will ONLY review teachers who have graduated from an AMERICAN TOP 25 University OR a teacher with a substantial reputation (ie When I hear your name, I know who you are). All other applicants will be immediately deleted. We also require prior experience in teaching either SAT I Writing or TOEFL structure for a MINIMUM of 1 year or comparable experience in teaching grammar. In return, we offer a guaranteed minimum 4,000,000 per month, 48,000,000 per year.

-4,000,000 is inclusive of all severance/housing/medical insurance/plane
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oskinny1



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!

PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They give you a plane!??
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blotsm



Joined: 21 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He knows who I am. Razz
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeeves... I've changed my mind... call the pilot and give him our ETA. Tell him to file a flight plan for Dubai and fire up the Lear.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oskinny1 wrote:
They give you a plane!??

No you misread it. You gotta buy your own plane.
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sulperman



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That ad, beyond just being obnoxious, is also massively misleading. 4,000,000 "inclusive of all severance/housing/medical insurance/plane"??

So 4 mil MINUS severance MINUS housing MINUS the plane ticket? What does that end up being in actual pay? Please excuse my lazy math, but assuming 600 towards housing (if its in Akpujeong maybe more, who knows) 1400 for the round trip ticket, that is 8600 off the 48 mil, so 39,400,000. Divide that by 13 (12 months plus one month's severance), and it is about 3 mil a month. Not quite sure how to add in the insurance to the equation, so I will leave it out.

3 mil is nothing to scoff at, but it is NOT 4 mil. That is a lie, or at the very least not in line with the way that 99.9% of other job adverts display the pay.

But my university is not top 25 material (no matter what list he is using), and my name is not yet famous in the SAT teaching community, so this isn't really my concern.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems plain to me (excuse the pun) - the genius who posted this ad assumes high SAT scores are not necessarily correlated with the ability to add and subtract. Rolling Eyes
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Meenam



Joined: 16 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not to mention...if i graduated from a top 25 school...and was that well known...i can guarentee i wouldn't work for that much.
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pangaea



Joined: 20 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha ha! I've been searching for a job and I saw this ad. It just makes me wonder...are there really ESL teachers out there that are so "famous" that random people who work in hogwans know who they are? Kind of like Norm on Cheers?
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The Bobster



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pangaea wrote:
random people who work in hogwans

Not a random hagwon, and where did you get the idea? It's an "SAT I test prep academy located in Apgu Jung Dong." Come on, that's the farthest thing from random - it's very specific, and the person they want to hire is so specific that a normal recruiter wouldn't be able to handle it.

They are willing to hire someone outside of the top 25 unis, but only if that person has acquired a reputation elsewhere, like from publishing in academic journals or activity in some professional organization.

That's what I think is going on ... and they're being upfront because they'd like to maybe avoid being inundated with identical empty resumes from fresh-faced recent uni grads all with identical resumes, except for the lot who have a BA in geography or a Masters in Chemistry, or a law school degree or something else that would have no possible application toward preparing ESL students to improve a score on a specific college entrance test.

They are a specialized school, the kind I'd never want to work at, and I'm happy they told me who they are so I don't have to bother with them.
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xingyiman



Joined: 12 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Does this person know who you are? (job ad) Reply with quote

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(ie When I hear your name, I know who you are)


The only two individuals I know in Korea who would qualify are Dave Theissen or Steve Schertzer. Laughing
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egrog1717



Joined: 12 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Does this person know who you are? (job ad) Reply with quote

xingyiman wrote:
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(ie When I hear your name, I know who you are)


The only two individuals I know in Korea who would qualify are Dave Theissen or Steve Schertzer. Laughing


Ms. Pak, the toothless Itaewon "lady of the night"? Razz
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Some of the Mothers Said



Joined: 01 Jul 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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pangaea
Ha ha! I've been searching for a job and I saw this ad. It just makes me wonder...are there really ESL teachers out there that are so "famous" that random people who work in hogwans know who they are? Kind of like Norm on Cheers?

Everyone knows Isaac!
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nathanrutledge



Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well now, are they using the AP Top 25 or the USAToday poll?
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BCS is the only thing that counts.
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