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[Ya-ta Boy]

The outcome of Tuesday's election? As usual the winners will declare it a referendum on Obama's administration and the loser will say it was the result of local factors. The losers are right in this case. In the three big races getting national attention, it looks like the voters will have to hold their noses firmly before they pull the lever. The only race with national implications is the NY-23 race. If Hoffman pulls it off, you can look for many more challenges from the right to Republican incumbents in 2010 and a final purge of moderates.

As long as economic conservatism as espoused by the leading libertarian, sometime Libertarian, RP who believes repealing all of the 20th Century and a good share of the 19th, it doesn't have a chance at capturing a governing majority. A 'one size fits all economic situations' policy does not meet the road test of the real world.

The name of the game in the real world is economic responsibility. The group, whether it be one of the traditional parties or a new one, that makes that case convincingly to the voting public will govern for the next generation. There's a good chance that will be the Democrats. Stay tuned for Obama's first State of the Union Address in about 3 months. He'll almost certainly deliver a barn-burner about how a period of 'fiscal responsibility' is needed after the god-awful mess of Reaganomics and the bailout that boondoggle necessitated. Combined with a restrained foreign policy and liberal social agenda, it's a winning combination.

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[Pluto]

From NJ, Corzine put his foot in his mouth so he might as well eat it:

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[Pluto]

^sigh, yes I served with 3rd ID, Rock of the Marne and Audie Murphy, spent the better part of 2003 and early 2004 in a desert oven and I support a repeal of of DADT. Apparently, so do most junior enlisted (E-1 thru E-4) and junior officers (O-1 thru O-3):

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I'm gonna jump in here.

So the NY 23 went to Owens. Now, I'm as liberal a person as you'll meet, but I'm a little saddened to see it this way. I (along with several Dem strategists) was pulling for Hoffman and the ubber conservatives to pull this one off.

Had he done so, it would have fired up the hard line base to challenge moderate Republicans across the board next year and there would have been some heavy primaries to watch. And in the end, the moderate Dem would have spanked a hard liner because these Purple Districts are purple for a reason. They don't go hard left or hard right. If the Dems run a progressive in one, he'll lose. Same goes for a wing nut. Sadly, it looks the conservative base will learn from this mistake and end the party purge it set out on a year ago.

I told my friends last night as we were discussing this over a few beers: Either way, this goes good for the left. Either we pick up a seat we haven't held since before the Civil War, or this situation I described above happens. It was win-win for us today up there.

As for the Gov. races, VA was supposed to go to the Republican. That's just how that state operates. After every Presidential election, it votes for the opposing party Gov. It did that after Bush and now it did it for Obama. No big surprise there. It was their's to lose. Had it gone the other way would have made bigger news.

The NJ Gov race was a little heart breaking though. Oh well, can't win 'em all.

Still watching the Maine gay marriage issue though. Turn out is high, which bodes well for the pro gay marriage crowd. I think we'll see it stay in place. ME is a pretty moderate state, no way they side with the religion nuts. Although CA was a surprise, so you never know what might happen.

Biggest story though: Small town in Colorado legalizes 1 ounce of pot for adults over 21. Interesting to see how this one plays out in the coming weeks.

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[Ya-ta Boy]

Things turned out really well in the two Congressional races. I hadn't been following the California race but came across this:

"Then came the news that Democrat John Garamendi, who campaigned as an unapologetic backer of sweeping health-care reform, had won a big victory in the race to fill an open U.S. House seat in northern California. Garamendi, a rabble-rousing critic of big insurance companies who beat the choices of much of the party establishment in the primary, keeps a Democratic seat Democratic. But he will serve as a decidedly more progressive representative than the member he succeeds, Ellen Tauscher, who was one of the few California Democrats to join the conservative Blue Dog Caucus.

Tauscher took the seat in 1996 from a Republican and for many years the district was portrayed as one where only a conservative Democrat could beat the GOP. Garamendi's win proves the thinking wrong and actually gives a boost to reformers in the House."

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/491759/house_wins_offset_gubernatorial_losses_for_obama_dems

Owens' victory in NY-10 is a stunner. I admit I was so fascinated with the shenanigans going on with the other 2 candidates that I don't know a thing about him, but he adds another vote for the Dems in Congress. I'm not convinced the Teabaggers will give up. I'm expecting them to be frothing even more because the RINOs seem to have broken for Owens. No doubt there will be lots more talk of victimization and stabs in the back. I don't think the Civil War is over--I think the two sides have just had their Shiloh and now know it will be a long and bloody affair.

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