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been_that_done_there



Joined: 19 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:26 am    Post subject: Technical schools - stay away Reply with quote

I have been teaching at a technical school this year. My idiot Evil or Very Mad recruiter sent me here as he has a deal with technical schools but he didn't warn me. I didn't even know such schools existed until I arrived in Korea. As a teacher of many years who loves teaching, my Korean technical school has just about broken my spirit.

I'm tired of being laughed at, mimicked, disrespected, mocked and general treated like I am invading the sleeping time of the students. It's very tiring having to discipine and stand up to 16-19 year olds continuously. I get no support from the principal, vice principal and my co-teacher is a little old lady who said the following:

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All the students in Korea are not the same as the ones in my school. When I was transfered to this school from the academic school, I was going to quit my job. At that time I had a terrible headache because of much stress and I had my brain examined by a doctor. The doctor said the headache resulted from the stress and advised me to relax in everything. As time flies I have been accustomed to this environment . Sometimes I I have a bad conscience that I let my students uncontrolled and disciplined . I can't help them. Though I am ashamed to say this, I am just waiting for time to fly . As you said, you have a short while left. So just tolerate the situation !


When I asked why the school is run by the kids, I was told that the people in authority on only interested in their own promotions and don't care about the kids.

FOR ANYONE READING THIS, avoid teaching at a technical school if you can. I'm not saying they are all bad, but I'm yet to hear a good experience at a technical school.

4 people sent by my agent are all leaving in Dec/Jan for the same reasons. They have had enough.
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP



Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: Electron cloud

PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ha ha.

A friend of mine works at a boy's technical High school and it's so bad all he does is play episodes of the simpsons all day in his classes.

I've heard stories of his students crapping in corridors and on floors... swearing at him in class... Students openly jerking off in the corridors / classroom / bathrooms... a student repeatedly bashing his own head against a wall.... Students with serious mental ticks etc....

Sod that for a game of soldiers
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Easter Clark



Joined: 18 Nov 2007
Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong

PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the plus side, most of the male teachers at those places are big drinkers and you'll get treated a lot if you play your cards right. But other than that, there aren't many positives to working at a tech or vocational HS...at least in my experience.
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Captain Obvious



Joined: 23 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh do tell us some of your stories.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Obvious wrote:
Oh do tell us some of your stories.

Seconded!
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zipper



Joined: 22 Jul 2009
Location: Ruben Carter was falsely accused

PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP wrote:
ha ha.

A friend of mine works at a boy's technical High school and it's so bad all he does is play episodes of the simpsons all day in his classes.

I've heard stories of his students crapping in corridors and on floors... swearing at him in class... Students openly jerking off in the corridors / classroom / bathrooms... a student repeatedly bashing his own head against a wall.... Students with serious mental ticks etc....

Sod that for a game of soldiers
Sounds like one of those youth detention schools in America. Laughing
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espoir



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Incheon, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Technical schools are hell on earth. I survived them last year and am thankful for my paradise of school this year! (at its a paradise for now)
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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like my school. I won't lie its definitely hard. Here its more important to really believe in what you do or you won't make it. Had to throw the rule book out the window and drop the standards to the floor.

And I don't have any fancy technology just chalk and paper. When it comes down to it if you can make lessons that are self contained and insanely fun they're run themselves.

Then you won't have to worry about discipline. Just need to pull the plug on the activity and everyone will fall in line.
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMH(humble)O, these kids need to be taught to their interests. If they're automotive students, draw a car on your chalkboard and start from there. C A R -- car. If they're computer techs, teach them the geek terms from their textbooks. If they are food service students, well, you get the picture--DOWNLOAD pictures--menu items, recipes, measurements, ingredients, kitchen utensils, bla bla bla... Visit their regular classrooms and borrow visual aids, books, charts, hot rod magazines, haute cuisine. etc. Teach them the English words to what they're learning already.

If you have a co-teacher, get him/her to help you translate the nomenclature that corresponds to what they're learning in their techie classes.
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Summer Wine



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: Next to a River

PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If they're automotive students, draw a car on your chalkboard and start from there. C A R -- car. If they're computer techs, teach them the geek terms from their textbooks. If they are food service students, well, you get the picture--DOWNLOAD pictures--menu items, recipes, measurements, ingredients, kitchen utensils, bla bla bla... Visit their regular classrooms and borrow visual aids, books, charts, hot rod magazines, haute cuisine. etc. Teach them the English words to what they're learning already.


That doesn't always work. Most of the students in the classes didn't want to study that course, but thats what they were put into.

Plus, I tried teaching words relevant to thier studies. Construction students, words with pictures such as hammer, etc.

They weren't interested and teachers didn't seem to like them learning it either. "Just play games with them, you are here to make english fun for them".

They were really proud though that they were replacing me with an American History Teacher when I left. I always wonder how he found the classes.
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Easter Clark



Joined: 18 Nov 2007
Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong

PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kikomom wrote:
IMH(humble)O, these kids need to be taught to their interests. If they're automotive students, draw a car on your chalkboard and start from there. C A R -- car. If they're computer techs, teach them the geek terms from their textbooks. If they are food service students, well, you get the picture--DOWNLOAD pictures--menu items, recipes, measurements, ingredients, kitchen utensils, bla bla bla... Visit their regular classrooms and borrow visual aids, books, charts, hot rod magazines, haute cuisine. etc. Teach them the English words to what they're learning already.

If you have a co-teacher, get him/her to help you translate the nomenclature that corresponds to what they're learning in their techie classes.


I'm not sure I know what you're talking about.

Tech HS students have all of their normal classes, in addition to Vocational classes. Basically it's just a *normal* high school but without the college prep classes, and with admission standards that are, for practical purposes, nonexistent.

And you have a mixed bag of interests in every class--it's not like you get a whole class of "automotive" students.
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nobbyken



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^

PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work at an Information HS. Doesn't sound as bad as some mentioned, but some classes do look and act like a bit odd. Our classes are graded, and some I don't see.
Some kids will actually go to lower level colleges, and they are quite bright. Many come from broken homes or have troubled lives.
It is good to see them transformed from 1st graders who bare a passing resemblence to chimpanzees, into the young adults of 3rd grade, who less resemble the chimpanzee.
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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kikomom wrote:
IMH(humble)DOWNLOAD pictures--menu items, recipes, measurements, ingredients, kitchen utensils, bla bla bla... Visit their regular classrooms and borrow visual aids, books, charts, hot rod magazines, haute cuisine. etc. Teach them the English words to what they're learning already.

If you have a co-teacher, get him/her to help you translate the nomenclature that corresponds to what they're learning in their techie classes.


Most of the students don't even have textbooks or notebooks. And the schools don't have the kind of resources your talking about English zone, magazines, stocked library, books.

And the co-teachers stopped caring, they're just going through the motions. Either translating everything which is pointless or translating nothing which is equally pointless.

Donating things to the school doesn't seem to work either since nobody takes care of em.
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oskinny1



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work at a technical high school and think it's great. I only have one class (out of the eight) that is somewhat annoying, but other than them, life is good. Class size is 30 students at the moment but next year it will only be 20 per class.
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Zulethe



Joined: 04 Jul 2008

PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who was that one dude that posted about his experiences? I think it was Dean Burrito or something like that. His story was hilarious.

I really want to teach at a technical high school just so I can sit around and watch tv all day.

You guys stressing over this need to go with the flow. If no one else cares, why do you?
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