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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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Would I love to be strong? Sure, who wouldn't/ But I'd rather have read all of Shakespeare's plays, finished a puzzle of the Art of De La Tour or finished my copy of "Grant Takes Command". Priorities.
I see where you're coming from though, being strong is your thing. For me reading is my thing. And yeah, as someone with an "obscure" hobby which most people don't see the use for, I too get that frustration of having all this knowledge to share and no audience. I mean Civil War History, that makes hardcore bodybuilding look like the next golf. Hopefully you will find a good crew to lift with.
I have a saying when it comes to Korea- "There's always that one guy" Whether its the random cabbie or GS25 operator who speaks perfect English or that K-Dude on a Harley, that guy who "gets it" IS out there.
As for physical activities I can think of a dozen sports I'd rather be good at than weightlifting. I know I'm going to get pilloried for this but I'd rather be a professional ballroom/latin dancer than a professional body builder.
It's just preferences. [/quote] |
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Wayland
Joined: 11 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:49 am Post subject: |
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Some lift weights to look good naked; some lift to improve their performance in sports; some lift to become powerlifters; some lift to be bigger than life; and some lift because, next to breathing, it's what comes most natural. You guys jumped all over the OP in what from here looks like a bout of nerd envy.
Korean fitness industry much like the western one revolves around the idea of the apperance of working out rather than actually doing anything productive.
"I used to be strong but now im not for whatever reason. " funny CC should say that because Old adjossi's and westerners alike spout this when we start talking about strength and fitness. |
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Bloopity Bloop
Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:53 am Post subject: |
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"I used to be strong but now im not for whatever reason. " funny CC should say that because Old adjossi's and westerners alike spout this when we start talking about strength and fitness. |
Except CC actually was/is gigantic. |
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Cerberus
Joined: 29 Oct 2009
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Actually quite a few do try to get buff.....problem is, not all have the genes for it and give up....
I've seen some really buff old dudes at my gym. |
I would argue the problem isn't necessarily the genes.
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2007/05/02/2007050261007.html
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According to a report released Tuesday by the Korea Health Industry Development Institute under the Ministry of Health & Welfare, men aged 30 to 49 get most of their calories in the summertime from rice, followed by soju, ramen, pork and fresh bacon. The study was conducted on 983 households and 2,454 individuals nationwide, from June 27, 2005 to July 15.
According to the study, women in the same age group got most of their calories from rice, followed by ramen, pork, coffee and noodles. For men, the average intake per day in 2005 was 2400 calories.
Men in their 30s and 40s attained 814 calories or 33.9 percent of their daily intake from rice. A further 128.7 calories or 5.3 percent was attained by soju, 84.7 calories or 3.5 percent by ramen, 77.2 calories or 3.2 percent from pork and 61.5 calories or 2.5 percent from fresh bacon.
Women attained a similar amount of calories as men from rice, ramen, and pork, but instead of soju they attained an average of 38.7 calories per day from coffee. |
if that's what you're going to be ingesting, then you're better of staying away from the gym as it's really just a big waste of time especially if you desire an improvement in visual appearance.
Better off staying at a noreabang drinking soju followed by come kimbab if you get the drunk munchies.
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to tie it in with another thread about K-pop alongside this one you can't possibly be serious and lift seriously if the gym is cranking out Gee Gee Gee or some Korean flower child crooning sarangahe as you're trying to crank out a killer set. I suppose that music works with hanging upside down, getting the belt massage or trying to do the hoola hoop. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:34 am Post subject: |
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At my gym there are some really well built guys. (man that sounded gay  )
Nevertheless, most younger Koreans are scrawney little girls. I'm not saying these duded should get all WWF, but a respectful amount of toning and a little upper-body size should be desired by all men. |
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bish
Joined: 09 Jun 2007
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[quote="endo"]At my gym there are some really well built guys. (man that sounded gay )
It's hard not to sound gay with this kind of thread. Go to the gym, do what you need to do, get out and shut up about it. All this "working out" together stuff is for closet gays and ex-bullying victims... |
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orosee
Joined: 07 Mar 2008
Location: Hannam-dong, Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:45 am Post subject: |
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| endo wrote: |
At my gym there are some really well built guys. (man that sounded gay )
Nevertheless, most younger Koreans are scrawney little girls. I'm not saying these duded should get all WWF, but a respectful amount of toning and a little upper-body size should be desired by all men. |
I'm not saying that you sound gay but...
...a respectful amount of chest and a little peach shaped butt is what should be desired by all men!
You're thinking like a woman  |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:57 am Post subject: |
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| Wayland wrote: |
Some lift weights to look good naked; some lift to improve their performance in sports; some lift to become powerlifters; some lift to be bigger than life; and some lift because, next to breathing, it's what comes most natural. You guys jumped all over the OP in what from here looks like a bout of nerd envy.
Korean fitness industry much like the western one revolves around the idea of the apperance of working out rather than actually doing anything productive.
"I used to be strong but now im not for whatever reason. " funny CC should say that because Old adjossi's and westerners alike spout this when we start talking about strength and fitness. |
Is this calling me out?
I'm the one saying that I get where he's coming from, but that he should understand that not everybody is in the same place.
But I'm the first to admit that I'm not at my peak - but I'm willing to step into the gym wih you if you'd like. Live in Seoul? |
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The Gipkik
Joined: 30 Mar 2009
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The reason average Koreans don't want to get big and strong is that it's not that important to them--yet. This need to look cut, massive and all is a very individualistic trait. You've got to be pretty self-centered to want to look like this. Group oriented society that it is, these things are not high on the list of Korean ways to feel good about yourself or attract women--yet. Frankly, it's nice to see countries behaving like self-sufficient and culturally distinct entities. This copy cat US brown nosing attitude is nauseating.
With that said, anything that makes a person healthier and in turn increases their longevity is a winner. Now, that is a sensible kind of selfishness. Big and strong is generally cosmetic. The argument about having to fight and protect yourself is an entirely different issue. And I think martial arts caters to that anyways. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| I think the mandatory military service put a lot of Korean guys off of exercise. I think if I had to do PT in the freezing cold pouring rain in nothing but a pair of tighty whities, I would be put off by exercise too. |
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calicoe
Joined: 23 Dec 2008
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:02 am Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
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...because there is really no need for all that muscle.
It would male sense if we lived in a violent macho society where you were expected to fight every weekend or if we were doing hard manual labor jobs. But that just isn't the case in Korea. Whats the point of being as strong as a bull when the only thing you'll be doing through the week is pushing a pen? |
Ever been in Egypt when a Palestinian keeps following you asking very personal questions about your nationality when you get a scary feeling that he means you nothing but harm?
Ever been in mons, Belgium with a pack of Morocans following you yelling taunting insults?
Ever been on a date while being followed by three Korean dudes hurling insults at your date?
Ever been in a bar where a fight breaks out and you have to fight your way out of the bar?
If not then STFU!!!! |
Better keep off the steroids there mr angry.
Dude prancing around like arnold schwarzenneger marks you out, at best as someone with too much time on his hands and an overdose of vanity,,. At worst women would assume you were personality-deficient and having to overcompensate.
You can pump iron for years but the moment you stop, then within a few weeks you have nothing to show for it except possibly a case of shrinkies. If you spent that time studying for a degree or learning a language then its a much wiser use of your time. |
I really hope you don't think this is true... but I do agree the OP should calm down a little bit even though there is nothing wrong with being interested in fitness. It's a shame how little people care about their health these days  |
I should have never used the word "big" in my initial post because that's not what I meant to focus on. I'm talking about brute strength. If any man were given the gift of strength over-night and then asked whether or not he wanted to keep it, what would he do? Of course he'd keep it. Most people don't have the determination, motivation or drive to get strong so they just make excuses.
Everyone of you would love to be incredibly strong, but you won't admit it. The one guy who said he used to be strong is an anomally I think because I've never met someone that strong who didn't care to keep his strength.
I just love the feeling of being strong, that's it. It's not for fighting or for picking up chicks it's simply just a good feeling.
Also, I don't live in Seoul so there are not as many people here who like to lift weights.
Your muscles have memory so once you make certain gains you will never go back to where you were before you started lifting. You will lose strength but that strength will quickly come back faster than it did before you started lifting in the first place.
I guess it's more frustration on my part than anything. I've got all this knowledge to share and nobody wants to take advantage of that. |
Well, if you lived in my part of the sticks, I'd definitely take advantage of your advice. I need a good trainer/motivator type. I've worked out hard before, and you are absolutely correct about muscles and memory. Although, I haven't worked out recently, my body looks a lot better than someone who has never worked out at my age.
I'm gonna start some cardio and stuff, but training in a Korean gym isn't much fun on my own, especially when they all watch me and try to tell me what to do. |
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TK421
Joined: 05 Aug 2009
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| lol OP just discovered that not every man's goal in life is to be big and strong. What a revelation. |
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Wayland
Joined: 11 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:09 am Post subject: |
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Some lift weights to look good naked; some lift to improve their performance in sports; some lift to become powerlifters; some lift to be bigger than life; and some lift because, next to breathing, it's what comes most natural. You guys jumped all over the OP in what from here looks like a bout of nerd envy.
Korean fitness industry much like the western one revolves around the idea of the apperance of working out rather than actually doing anything productive.
"I used to be strong but now im not for whatever reason. " funny CC should say that because Old adjossi's and westerners alike spout this when we start talking about strength and fitness. |
Is this calling me out?
I'm the one saying that I get where he's coming from, but that he should understand that not everybody is in the same place.
But I'm the first to admit that I'm not at my peak - but I'm willing to step into the gym wih you if you'd like. Live in Seoul? |
Nah calling people out over internet forums is daft, Bloopity Bloop 2nded you and thats enough for me.
I was trying to make the point that when your someone who is dedicated to lifting conversing with people who dont, people (mainly men) will throw up some non-sense about shit they used to do "back in the day" like some sort of ego defense mechanism. |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:27 am Post subject: |
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| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
| Wayland wrote: |
"I used to be strong but now im not for whatever reason. " funny CC should say that because Old adjossi's and westerners alike spout this when we start talking about strength and fitness. |
Except CC actually was/is gigantic. |
He was also on steroids, which he admitted in another thread a while back. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
...because there is really no need for all that muscle.
It would male sense if we lived in a violent macho society where you were expected to fight every weekend or if we were doing hard manual labor jobs. But that just isn't the case in Korea. Whats the point of being as strong as a bull when the only thing you'll be doing through the week is pushing a pen? |
Ever been in Egypt when a Palestinian keeps following you asking very personal questions about your nationality when you get a scary feeling that he means you nothing but harm?
Ever been in mons, Belgium with a pack of Morocans following you yelling taunting insults?
Ever been on a date while being followed by three Korean dudes hurling insults at your date?
Ever been in a bar where a fight breaks out and you have to fight your way out of the bar?
If not then STFU!!!! |
I think you would have a stronger line of argument if you referred to the fact that some men feel better about themselves if they develop a large solid build. You don't need to be big to handle confrontational situations. If you are confident enough you can diffuse many potential problems. It just so happens that some men need the mass before acquiring the necessary confidence. That's fine, but it's not essential in street fights man. |
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