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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:53 pm    Post subject: A REAL Gaming PC Reply with quote

Um so before you say so, no i'm not building my own rig. I don't have the time, but i have the money. So let's get wild. Where can i get a gaming rig that will run games like MW2, Left for Dead 2, BioWare 2, etc. at top fps and res? If Alienware had a Korean division i would buy one. I'm looking for that high quality. None of these PC방 POS systems with their 256MB cards, loud fan integrated sound/video boards.

Notes:
- liquid cooling?
- dual SLi? (is it worth it?) Direct X 11 capable?
- Intel not AMD
- Windows 7
- probably won't OC (at least not out of the box)
- i have monitor
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hanguker



Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll build you one, 5 Million Won.

Super-mega whatever. It will play any game.

I'll even label it Alien2!
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude....$1,300 USD will build you what I have, maybe even a little stronger. Right now, my computer eats through L4D2, Crysis, etc.

It's a beast

Intel Core i7 920 (boy it runs hot)
6 gigs of pc16000 DDR3 RAM
The intel motherboard for the i7
Geforce 280GTX

A monster power supply and a 50,000 won case.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty simple request really....

Core i7 920

Any X58 mobo

HD5870...........don't bother spending on any SLI/Crossfire setup.....the expense and bother isn't worth the few extra FPS...............

Only the ATI HD5000 series supports DX11 right now. Nvidia are well behind the game at the moment. They do have something coming up soon called 'Fermi', which looks impressive on paper, but that's at least a couple of months away. Anyway, rumor is that the HD5870 will still eat it up. Which has led to the other rumor that Nvidia basically have nothing and might stop competing with ATI in the discreet GPU market.......who knows.

Any quality 600w-ish PSU.

6GB of the fastest DDR3 RAM your mobo can support.

That rig will get you over the magic 30 FPS in Crysis, the only game around that will even test that rig.

It will go through the other games you mention like butter.

Without a monitor, you could probably do it for 1.5mill......

...add the cost of W7.......if of course you want to pay for it!!
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OneWayTraffic



Joined: 14 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What they said. Just pop down to Yongsan with a spec sheet and get them to build the closest they can get to it. You should get pretty high end, though not real extreme. If you really want the best, just pay Cubanlord, Demo or one of the other PC guys on here 100k to build you a rig.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everything depends on the monitor.

Let us know what "full res" means to you, and we can fill in the blanks easily. I mean, getting a 5xxx series card on a 22" monitor is a total waste. Heck, a 4870 will give you "full res", 8xAA and 16x AF. It won't give you DX11, but neither will the devs for at least a year. Razz
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spanky1off



Joined: 21 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dude i'll be building a system for myself early 2010 so i researched this alot and heres what ive found

for gaming u should go with

the new core i7-820 or i7-750 http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/17545/6
about $330 or $230 respectively off danawa.com here

u will need a P55 socket 1156 motherboard to go with this...generally motherboards make little if any difference to gaming performace so go for one with a feature set u want. e.g. e-sata dual gigabyt lan etc
MSI.Gigabyte.Asus... all respected brands.u can probably get a decent spec one for 200 bucks (tho u may want to upgrade when sata 6gb/s and usb 3 comes out. what im waiting for basically).

if money is no object the new AMD Radeons 5870 or 5850 are the fastest single card solutions out there but imho not worth it as direct 11 support is very very sparse now and will be for the foreseeable future.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_11_support

my advice would be go with a slightly older 4870 ($200) for less than half price of 5850 and almost 1/3 price of 5870 but this thing flies like shit off a shovel. then simply upgrade when the early adopter premiums come down next year or when competition with Nvidia heats up. i just dont think its worth doing overkill just for 1 game (crysis).

for other performance compenents go for a western digital caviar black hard drive for speedier loading times. 4-8gb ram ddr3 1600Mhz.
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hugekebab



Joined: 05 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
Pretty simple request really....

Core i7 920

Any X58 mobo

HD5870...........don't bother spending on any SLI/Crossfire setup.....the expense and bother isn't worth the few extra FPS...............



If he doesn't want to use crossfire or sli then it would be more sensible to get the i5. almost the same power, but the boards are limited in terms of the pci speed and also the triple channel ram. The boards for this are much cheaper (due to them not having to put the triple channel on the board) and the cpu is cheaper and almost as fast.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hugekebab wrote:
eamo wrote:
Pretty simple request really....

Core i7 920

Any X58 mobo

HD5870...........don't bother spending on any SLI/Crossfire setup.....the expense and bother isn't worth the few extra FPS...............



If he doesn't want to use crossfire or sli then it would be more sensible to get the i5. almost the same power, but the boards are limited in terms of the pci speed and also the triple channel ram. The boards for this are much cheaper (due to them not having to put the triple channel on the board) and the cpu is cheaper and almost as fast.


Yeah, all true, but I get the idea from the OP that he doesn't mind forking out for top-tier stuff......the OP can correct me, of course.

There is a bit of performance boost using the i7 over the i5 and having Triple-Channel RAM. I dunno if the OP will pay the couple of hundred extra $$$ for that.
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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
hugekebab wrote:
eamo wrote:
Pretty simple request really....

Core i7 920

Any X58 mobo

HD5870...........don't bother spending on any SLI/Crossfire setup.....the expense and bother isn't worth the few extra FPS...............



If he doesn't want to use crossfire or sli then it would be more sensible to get the i5. almost the same power, but the boards are limited in terms of the pci speed and also the triple channel ram. The boards for this are much cheaper (due to them not having to put the triple channel on the board) and the cpu is cheaper and almost as fast.


Yeah, all true, but I get the idea from the OP that he doesn't mind forking out for top-tier stuff......the OP can correct me, of course.

There is a bit of performance boost using the i7 over the i5 and having Triple-Channel RAM. I dunno if the OP will pay the couple of hundred extra $$$ for that.


I don't mind paying top tier as long as it makes a definite difference. I'm not paying for high end just because it's the latest and greatest - we all know how stupid buying into that type of marketing ploy is with these companies Nvidia, ATI included. I've read the benchmarks and i'm not really convinced of the perf. boost with i7 over i5 but i'm undecided...if it's only 100-200K diff, doesn't matter i'll go for it.

@Demophobe

I have dual LG Flatron 27inch M2794D-PM monitors. Like Jessica Alba's boobs staring at me, they're hot.

Looks like everyone is overwhelming in favor of ATI. I guess they managed to claw back to the top from the Nvidia GT9800 days eh? Anyone have these HD cards and tried running a 3DMark Benchmark test on it?
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The technet is littered with reviews on the HD5850/5870.....

..........here's one with 3Dmark vantage scores and lots of other Nvidia/ATI card benchmarks.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5850-review-crossfire/1
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

red_devil wrote:


@Demophobe

I have dual LG Flatron 27inch M2794D-PM monitors. Like Jessica Alba's boobs staring at me, they're hot.


Lovely. Smile 5xxx series terra then.
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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Budget is 1.5M - 2.0M KRW. What would be the best system build for that? I think often overlooked is cooling, sound, and noise levels. Have at it.
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misher



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm actually thinking about a gaming rig soon. Red Devil, I have the same monitor as you. Would it do a crazy rig justice with top end games? Or would I need a better monitor???????
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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

misher wrote:
I'm actually thinking about a gaming rig soon. Red Devil, I have the same monitor as you. Would it do a crazy rig justice with top end games? Or would I need a better monitor???????


There is nothing better unless you're going into 30inch HDTV territory.
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