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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| This is about a different issue. I suggest that you read the previous pages. I argued that the non-payment of wages is an abuse of human rights. I have posted links to this. Homer argued otherwise. Kiwi agreed with myself. Kiwi hasn't made an opinion on the articles I posted about Koreans being born in the USA. |
Oh. |
Oh, indeed.
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| These webistes indicate that business is booming. |
I agree it's booming, Something like 5000 Korean children are born in the U.S. per year. My point was that the children are then picked up and hauled back to Korea after being born. The first article you had listed suggested that Korean children were actually being left behind for a free education.
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| I could have continued but I would have had to negotiate my way through 7 pages. My gripe is that Americans can't aquire Korean citizenship with nearly as much ease. |
That's the way it is with most countries. Very few countries grant citizenship based on the luck of being born there. The U.S. only started doing in after the end of the civil war as a way of creating citizens of the black slaves who otherwise would have ended up being deported back to Africa.
It's actually kind of a silly policy in this day and age, but it's hardly "abusing the system" because that is what it was intended for. Plus since the Korean children are then hauled back to Korea and will probably never return until they need a job, the cost of their education will have already been paid for by Korea so they return and become an educated, tax-paying citizen. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 8:40 am Post subject: |
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| Gord wrote: |
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| These webistes indicate that business is booming. |
I agree it's booming, Something like 5000 Korean children are born in the U.S. per year. My point was that the children are then picked up and hauled back to Korea after being born. The first article you had listed suggested that Korean children were actually being left behind for a free education.
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| I could have continued but I would have had to negotiate my way through 7 pages. My gripe is that Americans can't aquire Korean citizenship with nearly as much ease. |
That's the way it is with most countries. Very few countries grant citizenship based on the luck of being born there. The U.S. only started doing in after the end of the civil war as a way of creating citizens of the black slaves who otherwise would have ended up being deported back to Africa.
It's actually kind of a silly policy in this day and age, but it's hardly "abusing the system" because that is what it was intended for. Plus since the Korean children are then hauled back to Korea and will probably never return until they need a job, the cost of their education will have already been paid for by Korea so they return and become an educated, tax-paying citizen. |
I agree with most of that. If anything, there is an economic spin off. I am sure that the USA benefits from it. Despite this, I still have reservations about the ease with which US citizenship can be aquired. The articles I posted were not intended to highlight the "free education" the newly borns could take advantage of, but rather show the double standard. The UK previously gave citizenship as easily, but the Thatcher government (predicatably) repealed that law. The American law is enshrined in the 14th amendment to the Constitution. It was originally designed to protect the descendants of slaves. |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Gord wrote: |
| Plus it cites that military avoidance is a prime reason for being born in the U.S. while failing to mention that the number of Korean girls serving as "anchor babies" born in the U.S. is in the neighborhood of 40% and girls are not forced to do military service. If military avoidance is a concern, then people are going to make sure they are going to deliver a boy before dropping 10K on a flight, hospital, and several months staying in the U.S. |
Which prompts the question:
Why then do these mothers do it? |
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