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SMOE: Apply now for Feb or wait for August?

 
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gunners girl



Joined: 30 Oct 2009
Location: London

PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:48 pm    Post subject: SMOE: Apply now for Feb or wait for August? Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

I was hoping to get some advice from you guys. I've decided that I want to work in a public school in Seoul so applying through SMOE seems like the best option (despite the horror stories of what happened in August). So far, I've had my interview with my recruiter and they've said they'd be happy to represent me. I've finished my application but haven't been able to email it to the recruiter yet because I'm waiting for one of my referees to send me a reference. Seems I'm horribly behind in terms of getting all my documents together. I'm aware that interviews have been going on for the past month and that people will have already received job offers. I asked my recruiter if there are still a number of jobs available through SMOE and they said they would send my application off whenever they received it because even if someone gets a job offer, they might not end up sending in all of the correct documents.

SO, my questions are: If you apply late into the recruiting season, are you more likely to be placed in an undesirable location in Seoul? Do you think it's best to just chance it and apply now or play the waiting game and apply as soon as the recruiting season for August begins? If I were to apply now but got rejected because all the positions have gone, could I still apply for the August intake? Or am I worrying for absolutely no reason??

Thank you for reading through all the waffle! Any help/advice would be much appreciated!
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think you are too late. I got everything all finalized in July for my late August position.
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SW



Joined: 08 Sep 2009
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should be fine. Just try not to rush and make sure everything you submit to them is of good quality.

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If you apply late into the recruiting season, are you more likely to be placed in an undesirable location in Seoul?


During the last orientation I got the impression that placements were actually being finalized WHILE the orientation was going on, or maybe a little beforehand - which might partially explain the fiasco that occurred. But I could be mistaken. Anyway, my guess would be that it doesn't really matter. I applied early and while I like my housing situation a lot more now, my school's location could not be more horrendous.

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Do you think it's best to just chance it and apply now or play the waiting game and apply as soon as the recruiting season for August begins? If I were to apply now but got rejected because all the positions have gone, could I still apply for the August intake?


If you get rejected this time around simply because there's already been too many successful applicants (which I highly doubt will happen), there's no reason you can't apply again (and early) for August recruiting. So if you're sure SMOE is what you really want, go for it.

Best of luck, and hope this helped.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't worry about your placement; it appears to be up to chance. i was one of the later recruits and then laid off during the august problem, but was hired again after the semester started. and i still got a great school Very Happy
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lovebug



Joined: 29 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, i was offered a job late too and got a fantastic school in a good location. there is no rhyme or reason to placement, and as other commenters said, a lot of it happens during your orientation week.

another thing to keep in mind is that some teachers have a harder time adjusting midyear (starting in sept) bc the coteachers have already taught a certain way and the kids are used to certain things. i hadn't even thought about this until a few teachers mentioned this. i don't think i even realized that the school year starts in march in korea when i came.

(there's loads of teachers who come midyear and have no problems, so if you do end up coming over the summer, don't let my comments worry you)
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gunners girl



Joined: 30 Oct 2009
Location: London

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you so much for all your comments - you've been really helpful! I've been getting myself into a right stress about it all!

One other question: On the SMOE application form, it asks you if you would be willing to commute for one hour to your school. I have initially ticked the box saying I wouldn't mind (basically because I didn't want to seem "difficult" and I have had to commute in London for over an hour before so would be nothing new) but now I'm thinking that that's just setting myself up to be placed really far away from my school and actually, I probably would mind! Do you think SMOE look upon your application negatively if you say you WOULD mind having such a long commute?
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gunners girl wrote:

One other question: On the SMOE application form, it asks you if you would be willing to commute for one hour to your school. I have initially ticked the box saying I wouldn't mind (basically because I didn't want to seem "difficult" and I have had to commute in London for over an hour before so would be nothing new) but now I'm thinking that that's just setting myself up to be placed really far away from my school and actually, I probably would mind! Do you think SMOE look upon your application negatively if you say you WOULD mind having such a long commute?


honestly, i think SMOE is looking for flexibility, so ticking the box makes you look better in their eyes. just because you don't mind a long commute doesn't mean they'll stick you with one, while the person who doesn't tick the box gets a close school.

i ticked the box and my school is about 3 bus stops away from my home (technically, walking distance, but i'm lazy in the mornings Very Happy )
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mmstyle



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: wherever

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My husband and I ticked the box and we are both walking distance to our schools, although admittedly, this is REALLY unusual.

Something to note: J. Pak straight up said in our orientation a year ago that anyone who said the were not willing to commute was no longer considered (I am sure this is based on how many people they need, though, but these days they don't seem to need people as much, of course). As Nomad-ish said, it's all about flexibility.
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gunners girl



Joined: 30 Oct 2009
Location: London

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your advice nomad-ish and mmstyle.

Unfortunately I've just had an email from my recruiter saying that SMOE are no longer willing to receive applications (they think they've received enough to recruit from for Feb). And I just received my second reference through the post today! Talk about sod's law. Never mind, August it is then!
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