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Junior
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matthews_world
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How many deaths? Maybe 30 so far.
Congrats on excellent work to 1. the medical community for their keen diagnoses of the flu and the fair regulation of the vacceine innoculations. 2. to public awareness campaigns brought to you by the Ministry of Health and 3. to the makers of the Tamiflu pill.
Korea's come along way since bird flu and SARS. |
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Junior
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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| matthews_world wrote: |
How many deaths? Maybe 30 so far.
Congrats on excellent work to 1. the medical community for their keen diagnoses of the flu and the fair regulation of the vacceine innoculations. 2. to public awareness campaigns brought to you by the Ministry of Health and 3. to the makers of the Tamiflu pill.
Korea's come along way since bird flu and SARS. |
Indeed. Korea has only 48 deaths, which is a lower rate per person than most countries.
I would attribute the high infection rate to the fact that its an overcrowded country and people mingle and have much more contact with eachother than other countries. i'd also say the low fatality rate is due to their quick response and strict measures to contain it. |
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i
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| High infection rate? How about shared water dispensers in most restaurants and schools (self service), utensils left together in bins on restaurant tables for all to reach in their unwashed hands to grab (or in buckets in the public schools), kimchi and other side dishes recycled in some restaurants, communal towels in the bathrooms for all to wipe their hands, toothbrushes kept in public toilets, no hot water or soap in most restrooms, the culture of sharing food from communal dishes, just to name a few things. Then many thinking the anti-bacteria gel is a fix-all and washing hands is not necessary. The gel does not kill the flu virus. |
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matthews_world
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| How about shared water dispensers in most restaurants and schools (self service), utensils left together in bins on restaurant tables for all to reach in their unwashed hands to grab (or in buckets in the public schools), kimchi and other side dishes recycled in some restaurants, communal towels in the bathrooms for all to wipe their hands, toothbrushes kept in public toilets, no hot water or soap in most restrooms, the culture of sharing food from communal dishes, just to name a few things. |
It's not our job to change these practices uprooted in traditional Korean culture. We can only avoid the potentially harmful ones. |
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Rusty Shackleford
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| How about shared water dispensers in most restaurants and schools (self service), utensils left together in bins on restaurant tables for all to reach in their unwashed hands to grab (or in buckets in the public schools), kimchi and other side dishes recycled in some restaurants, communal towels in the bathrooms for all to wipe their hands, toothbrushes kept in public toilets, no hot water or soap in most restrooms, the culture of sharing food from communal dishes, just to name a few things. |
It's not our job to change these practices uprooted in traditional Korean culture. We can only avoid the potentially harmful ones. |
All that sharing of microbes probably leads to increased herd immunity, as well. |
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blackjack
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: S.Korea has most cases of Swine flu worldwide |
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But a very low death rate 48 for 107,000 cases compared with the states with 1700 deaths for 66,000 cases |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| matthews_world wrote: |
It's not our job to change these practices uprooted in traditional Korean culture. We can only avoid the potentially harmful ones. |
OK, but then I'd say advising people to stay home from work or school when they are sick should not be a cultural change but a preventive medical one.
Korean medical students learn the same Western medicine, in English even. I cannot fathom why they have not come out more strongly for this practice. |
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Old Gil
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The article it refers to (footnote 3 says only:
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which is just not possible.
So I don't know where these numbers are coming from. |
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Captain Corea
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Old Gil wrote: |
The article it refers to (footnote 3 says only:
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| The onset of cold weather has caused a spike in H1N1 flu cases, with some warning 60,000-100,000 new cases of the flu are being confirmed on a weekly basis. |
which is just not possible.
So I don't know where these numbers are coming from. |
exactly. I'd love to see the actual source for those numbers. |
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Leslie Cheswyck
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So I don't know where these numbers are coming from. |
What, these numbers? --->
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Old Gil
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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So I don't know where these numbers are coming from. |
What, these numbers? --->
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kkk I guess 8+)= eh?
What I meant was "footnote 38". |
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Junior
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| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:02 am Post subject: |
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| How about shared water dispensers in most restaurants and schools (self service), utensils left together in bins on restaurant tables for all to reach in their unwashed hands to grab (or in buckets in the public schools), kimchi and other side dishes recycled in some restaurants, communal towels in the bathrooms for all to wipe their hands, toothbrushes kept in public toilets, no hot water or soap in most restrooms, the culture of sharing food from communal dishes, just to name a few things. |
It's not our job to change these practices uprooted in traditional Korean culture. We can only avoid the potentially harmful ones. |
If the president had appeared on KBS news ordering the nation to cover their mouths when sneezing or coughing.. they'd have cut the infection rate at least in half. Theres a reason Korea has the worlds highest infection rate. |
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Neil
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Communal eating out of the same plates and bowls in restaurants probably doean't help.
Korea has a cold winter so they are probably used to dealing with seasonal flu a lot, so maybe that preparation helps keep the mortality rate down.
I was browsing through the USA statistics (curious as to why their fatalities were higher) and saw that the places with the highest deaths were California, Florida and Texas. Places were seasonal flu is uncommon I'd imgaine. |
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munybse
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| Neil wrote: |
Communal eating out of the same plates and bowls in restaurants probably doean't help.
Korea has a cold winter so they are probably used to dealing with seasonal flu a lot, so maybe that preparation helps keep the mortality rate down.
I was browsing through the USA statistics (curious as to why their fatalities were higher) and saw that the places with the highest deaths were California, Florida and Texas. Places were seasonal flu is uncommon I'd imgaine. |
I lived in Texas 25+ years and the flu is very common. |
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