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mua'dib



Joined: 29 Sep 2009
Location: sweating pure pocari

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kurtz wrote:
I wish they would have a zero visible tattoo policy, it just looks really bad.

Attending EPIK meetings, going to open classes, on several occasions I've seen tattoos on the neck, lower back which is exposed when the teacher bends over, and poking out of long sleeved shirts I mean huh? what's with the hiring of punk rockers to teach kids!

A guy who used to do one of the after school programs had all of his upper body done, and the young kids are telling their Korean teacher "oh, so horrible!"

A small arm tat which might poke out of shirt on a summers day in say a middle or high school might be OK, but really ugly tats and young kids is just not on.

I must be getting old, but I get a little embarrassed when I see foreign guys sitting on the floor of a train wearing a singlet and exposing all their tats, man, what are you trying to prove? trying to say you're a bad boy and trying to gain the attention of wild Korean girls?

Anyways, kids and tats just don't mix.


You are getting old. and if you think people with tats are trying to prove something, you really don't know anything about tattoos or the people who get them.
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Kurtz



Joined: 05 Jan 2007
Location: ples bilong me

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's see your tat then shall we? Post it up.

Let's see what cliched bit of crap you've got inked on your canvass. A bit of BS Thai writing as you got so inspired on a 2 week holiday sitting on your arse in a bamboo shack? a Celtic image? a dragon? something wrapped around your arm? let's see this original piece of art that hasn't already been done a million times before.

Man, from what I've heard from Canadians, half of them under 30 have got a tat, baaa baaaa, show some individuality. And people say Koreans follow each other.

Yeah, I'm over 30, I just don't understand right! Getting oooold.

Well I call teenage angst.

How many people are getting laser surgery these days to remove these creations on their body? And tats look oh so beautiful as time goes on, like a fine wine they get better with age.

Anyways, glad to see folks are staying on topic and are actually answering the question which someone answered before, EPIK said hide them.

Some of these responses are really funny. Like, some mothers seemingly don't have a problem with one person's tats and that means this MYTH about Koreans not liking tats is proved false. Yeah right!

Do what you want guys, show your artwork proudly in your photos, tell your recruiter fully about your tattoos, you'll get a job no worries.
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a fairly visible, incredibly benign tattoo. It's been seen many, many times in my five years of teaching. It's never been a problem with anyone.
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mua'dib



Joined: 29 Sep 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I have tattoos visible in a T or polo shirt, I work for GEPIC and no one gives it a second thought. My principle is very nice to me, my co-teacher told me it didn't matter and the students spent about three seconds caring until they realized I wasn't going to waste classtime talking about it. Everyone at my school knows and none care enough to make it an issue.

I am sure that in ten years (maybe less) in the states it will not be uncommon at all to see professionals, educators and even doctors with visible tattoos. The social stigma is dying (thank god).

Also, tattoos are not fashion for me, but as long as they are perceived as such the stigma will continue to die.

Good, cause these suckers are around forever!

Personally I can't wait to have a Dr. with knuckle tats!

BTW Kurtz, why so anti-tattoo? teenage angst? I am an adult, and I have been planning the tattoos I would get for YEARS. Getting inked was an intense and pleasurable experience that I hope to repeat over and over again. I am not an impulsive person.

Also, to my knowledge, people don't get tattoos to be individual. they also don't get them to follow the crowd. They get them because they want them.

Not everybody that's younger than you who does something you never would are stupid/sheep/"punks" (I loved that one;-)) They are simply different. Though it may be difficult for you to understand, everyone has a reason for what they do.

You are so agressive..... What's the matter? some tattooed musician PUNK sleeping with your daughter or ex wife or something? Jebus!


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mua'dib



Joined: 29 Sep 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also don't tend to show my tattoos to people who have the intent of ridiculing them, but I assure you, they are nothing cliched and everything.... everything has already been done by somebody else first.
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GoodMike



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mua'dib wrote:
Yeah, I have tattoos visible in a T or polo shirt, I work for GEPIC and no one gives it a second thought. My principle is very nice to me, my co-teacher told me it didn't matter and the students spent about three seconds caring until they realized I wasn't going to waste classtime talking about it. Everyone at my school knows and none care enough to make it an issue.

I am sure that in ten years (maybe less) in the states it will not be uncommon at all to see professionals, educators and even doctors with visible tattoos. The social stigma is dying (thank god).

Also, tattoos are not fashion for me, but as long as they are perceived as such the stigma will continue to die.

Good, cause these suckers are around forever!

Personally I can't wait to have a Dr. with knuckle tats!

BTW Kurtz, why so anti-tattoo? teenage angst? I am an adult, and I have been planning the tattoos I would get for YEARS. Getting inked was an intense and pleasurable experience that I hope to repeat over and over again. I am not an impulsive person.

Also, to my knowledge, people don't get tattoos to be individual. they also don't get them to follow the crowd. They get them because they want them.

Not everybody that's younger than you who does something you never would are stupid/sheep/"punks" (I loved that one;-)) They are simply different. Though it may be difficult for you to understand, everyone has a reason for what they do.

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Anyways, glad to see folks are staying on topic and are actually answering the question which someone answered before, EPIK said hide them.


I believe the topic was "Tattoos!!!"

You are so agressive..... What's the matter? some tattooed musician PUNK sleeping with your daughter or ex wife or something? Jebus!


What an excellent post. I really do love how some people think that those who get tattoos do it to be "different" as if you could be different in this day and age anyway. Theres very little that hasnt been done already. I do things because i want to, nothing more, nothing less. I too, spent a very long time planning my tattoos, nothing impulsive about it.

I actually dont really give an answer when people as me "why did you get a tattoo" cause 1) theres no answer i could give that would truely explain it, 2) probably no answer i could give that would satisfy the asker, and 3) i dont go around asking "why do you cut your hair that way, why do you wear makeup like that, why do you dress like that" etc.

Nobody asked anybody to like the fact that someone has tattoos, but simply to show a BIT of respect, and leave out the judgements. I personally dont care if you like my tattoos, or hate them, and honestly if you want to judge me by it then it is your loss and not mine, cause you arent the kind of person i would associate with anyways. Same attitude and stance my boss takes. If the parents think my tattoos are problematic, then let them go (no parent has ever done this, but i have had the conversation about it). If someone expects respect, they need to know how to give it too.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GoodMike wrote:
...to show a BIT of respect, and leave out the judgements. I personally dont care if you like my tattoos, or hate them, and honestly if you want to judge me by it then it is your loss and not mine, cause you arent the kind of person i would associate with anyways.

Great attitude.
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Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a giant squid on my right arm. I haven't seen anybody with that before, I'm sure it's been done though.
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Grantasmagoria



Joined: 04 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Korean asked me how much one of my tattoos was and why I would spend so much money on something like that. I told her the amount and asked her how much she spent on that handbag and why she'd spend so much money on a bag. A moment of clarity was achieved. Laughing Moral of the story for you old/conservative/Republican farts: Some people buy cars, some people buy the lastest fashion, some people buy the latest tech. I like buying and getting tattoos. It's as viable a hobby/interest as anything you anti-tattoo people like. Using the old "your tattoo design is cliched" is so weak. I'm sure there are any number of cliches in either the way you live and or your interests that I could tear to shreds.

For the record, I cover mine up at school. No one knows at school because well, there's no point and it's none of their business. I did catch hell from the fruit bongo guy when it came summer time and there's ink all up and down my right arm and leg. Haha, if he didn't have such delicious apples, I'd go to the ajumma down the street.
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youtuber



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a discussion on a radio program that I was listening to that commented on the link between the rise in the popularity of tattoos with the rise of narcissism among younger people.
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apocalyptic_tea



Joined: 04 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, Old Gil, I've seen a bunch of squid tattoos. But squid are neat, so that's understandable Smile

I just got hired through SMOE, who does ask about tattoos on their application, and was told by my interviewer that nobody cares as long as they can be covered up in class.

I'd like to think that public opinion on body modification is changing, especially given increasing multiculturalism and cultural awareness (thanks, Internet!), and the fact that the value of body modification in general terms is entirely relative to the society in which one is brought up. Depending on your culture, a nose piercing can denote marital status, and a tattoo can be representative of one's genealogy or coming of age in the eyes of one's peers. I'd hate to think that those folks get the short end of the stick due to a stigma based on an outdated perception that body mods are the sole province of delinquents and ex-cons.

On the up side, plenty of Koreans have had the opportunity to notice my tattoos in the public sphere, and (so far) they've all taken it in stride. It may be wrenchingly optimistic to say this, but social change may be a-coming. Very Happy

(Of course, that isn't to say that employers have nothing about which to worry in regards to tattoos--hugely visible, potentially offensive ink might be cause for concern, just as a T-shirt with explicit content in the workplace would. But to paint all body mods in the broad strokes that conservative businesses seem to, I feel, is also inappropriate.)


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brandonlk



Joined: 30 Sep 2009
Location: Bundang, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am going to be working/living in Bundang which I hear is very upper class and full of rich people, so I am not sure if they are going to be more comfortable or less comfortable with my tattoos. I plan on covering them while at work but not on my time off
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Captain Obvious



Joined: 23 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kurtz wrote:
Let's see your tat then shall we? Post it up.

Let's see what cliched bit of crap you've got inked on your canvass. A bit of BS Thai writing as you got so inspired on a 2 week holiday sitting on your arse in a bamboo shack? a Celtic image? a dragon? something wrapped around your arm? let's see this original piece of art that hasn't already been done a million times before.

Man, from what I've heard from Canadians, half of them under 30 have got a tat, baaa baaaa, show some individuality. And people say Koreans follow each other.


Oh tell me about it. When I was in Canada I saw a bumper sticker: Keep Canada beautiful. Get tattooed!

I tell you, it's not gunna look so beautiful in 20 or 30 years.
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youtuber



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mua'dib wrote:


You are getting old. and if you think people with tats are trying to prove something, you really don't know anything about tattoos or the people who get them.


Actually they are trying to prove something. It's the whole "I may be an accountant/English teacher/engineer/insert boring job here but I am really a bad ass."

And narcissism plays a role too. You want people to look at you, and that's why you get a tattoo. If you lived alone in a hut on the side of Alaska, you wouldn't want to get a tattoo - or if you could think with your own brain.

It's all about trying to distance yourself from the herd and appear "individual". The funny thing is, everybody is doing it.

The funniest is seeing these "armband" tattoos on people today. Cause you know they got it about 5 years ago when everybody wanted to look cool like Tommy Lee (he isn't cool btw). But they just end up looking like a person with no concept of individuality at all. It looks more like branding material from a coolness marketing campaign that was instituted by Tommy Lee.

The same goes for "Faux Hawks". Just because David Beckham started it and looks good with it, it doesn't mean that your head will look good with a stupid little triangle on top. And this damn triangle head haircut is spreading like herpes in a Thai whorehouse. Laughing
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I'm no Picasso



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been using G Dragon in a lesson plan this week, and my students have absolutely no idea that he has multiple tattoos. Odd. I told them to check it out on the internet when they got home -- they didn't believe me.
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